Comp for 9mm pcc
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Lots of opinions here, lots of data, lots of theories.
I'm not the data guy and I'm certainly not an engineer. I shoot. But I do understand basic physics, I shoot PCC's a lot and I'm very familiar with the world of competitive PCC shooting.
Here's the only "data" I'll bring to this discussion. Every single PCC shooter in IPSC/USPSA who wants to win uses a comp or a brake. It doesn't matter if it's a 16" in the USA, an 18.5" in Canada or an 8" in Europe. Literally EVERYONE uses them. Competition shooters will use every piece of technology available that helps and nothing that doesn't. That's why compensators, magwells and red dots are the standard for open division, and why lasers lasted less than a year.
The only exception I know of is myself when I ran threads on my 19" Raven the first year I shot PCC because, like a lot of people here, I didn't think a comp would work (or make a big enough difference to be worth it). Then I made my comps and tried it on the 19" before going to a 10.5".
Guess what? It made a noticeable difference.
I'm not the data guy and I'm certainly not an engineer. I shoot. But I do understand basic physics, I shoot PCC's a lot and I'm very familiar with the world of competitive PCC shooting.
Here's the only "data" I'll bring to this discussion. Every single PCC shooter in IPSC/USPSA who wants to win uses a comp or a brake. It doesn't matter if it's a 16" in the USA, an 18.5" in Canada or an 8" in Europe. Literally EVERYONE uses them. Competition shooters will use every piece of technology available that helps and nothing that doesn't. That's why compensators, magwells and red dots are the standard for open division, and why lasers lasted less than a year.
The only exception I know of is myself when I ran threads on my 19" Raven the first year I shot PCC because, like a lot of people here, I didn't think a comp would work (or make a big enough difference to be worth it). Then I made my comps and tried it on the 19" before going to a 10.5".
Guess what? It made a noticeable difference.
Without giving a specific model; it's AR-like. Functionally the same.
How much of a difference it made can only really be subjective, as I haven't done any specific testing comparing the Maxim to the Armaspec. How I described it earlier is about the best I can do. As cool as specific, quantifiable data would be to have, I just don't care enough about it to take the time.
Hadn't thought of that but a 14" barrel would probably be the sweet spot with the handguard etc.
Of course in Canada that would take it from a regular gun to a "weapon of war" according to to some empty heads out there.
Sniffer I would not be to concerned about the mythical sweetspot. Max. Preasure varies from one powder/bullet/charge weight. From the info I have read and the chrono/ shooting I have done anywhere from 10" to 14" is where you might hit a sweetspot for the combination of the above you are using. The sweetspot being where max velocity and preasure meet.
From what I have observed it has far less affect on shooters performance than one might think or expect. In testing you might find a flatter shooter may or may not result in better scores. It should but
it might not.
For most of the shooters I have met the chase is more fun then reaching whatever goal you are attempting to achieve. The chase involves copious amounts of money, time and experimenting. I find by the time I think I got one thing right the goal changes or I forget what I was trying to achieve.
Having added a hydraulic buffer, a Davinci Comp, a heavier then lighter buffer spring and a 10" barrel my Raven9 now shoots dead flat reliably.
Great, but then I read about the benefits of a real light load for shooting steel and the quest begins again.....
This whole subject is a Sales & Marketing Manager's dream, a perfect storm if you will. "What wins on Sunday sells on Monday" None of us are immune and there is no cure.
Take Care
Bob
I was referring to the thought of 14" barrel combined with the standard handguard (ie the aesthetic aspect - I have an NR SPC9 and it is a little Pinocchioy), not barrel length / pressure.
But I agree with your point(s) - no arguments that it is a never ending rabbit hole.
