Composite/Fiberglass stocks for Model 700

SuperCub said:
Our hunting is confined to daylight hours, so the scope requirements here are quite different that that of you neck of the wood and Germany.

Most here (not all) when building a LW rifle, will consider all the components pkg to make a very light over all weight. Remington started the "mountain rifle" craze years ago which has been very popular among shooters with many companies offering uber light guns and/or custom guns that will shave every extra oz. This will include the scope and mounts as well. Some of those rifles are crazy light. I like mine not lighter than 6.5bs scoped, but most I own are a 7-7.5lbs.

I have had no trouble using a 32mm scope or smaller which would work fine for the vast majority of the hunting here. Many do use a larger scope for a LR rifle, but those are not usually LW anyways.
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Either way, building an extreme light weight mountain rifle or a something with better range capability right up to a full blown tactical rig.... nothing changes, you save just as much weight with either build if you go carbon vs wood/alu.
The extreme light mountain rifle often had flaws, I had built myself sporter barrelled rifles with 20" barrel 20OZ carbon stock and also had a 32mm scope but especially when going into the hills the shots are longer and this type of set up is not the best. Great for walking.. not so great for the longer shot. For certain applications it was perfect just not an allrounder. Recon it depends a lot on how, when and where you shoot. When I go into our hills now I take a lightweight tactical rifle, go on my own and pace myself. Coming back with the meat of a deer in the Rucksack is the bigger issue. Then again we mostly only do half day stints into the low'ish hills.

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EJG said:
The extreme light mountain rifle often had flaws, I had built myself sporter barrelled rifles with 20" barrel 20OZ carbon stock and also had a 32mm scope but especially when going into the hills the shots are longer and this type of set up is not the best. Great for walking.. not so great for the longer shot. For certain applications it was perfect just not an all rounder.
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Therein lay the compromise. I just had a lighter weight rifle built this winter. Nothing special really but could be a fairly good compromise between the two. Rem SS action with custom lug, 22" JC bbl 0.610" @ the muzzle in a McM Edge. I topped it with Talley LWs and a Leupold 2-7. Weighs 6lb 10oz as described and handles well.

One could replace the 2-7 with another scope with funky reticle and use it for longer ranges, but I have other heavier rifles for that.
 
EJG said:
Either way, building an extreme light weight mountain rifle or a something with better range capability right up to a full blown tactical rig.... nothing changes, you save just as much weight with either build if you go carbon vs wood/alu.
The extreme light mountain rifle often had flaws, I had built myself sporter barrelled rifles with 20" barrel 20OZ carbon stock and also had a 32mm scope but especially when going into the hills the shots are longer and this type of set up is not the best. Great for walking.. not so great for the longer shot. For certain applications it was perfect just not an allrounder. Recon it depends a lot on how, when and where you shoot. When I go into our hills now I take a lightweight tactical rifle, go on my own and pace myself. Coming back with the meat of a deer in the Rucksack is the bigger issue. Then again we mostly only do half day stints into the low'ish hills.

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Weight vs. Long range accuracy is a sliding scale. I think for most hunters I would slide it towards light weight though.

To shoot long range you must practice A LOT. So let's say you do shoot a lot, my light weight weighs 6 lbs 2 oz, glass is a fixed 6x36mm and is the limiting factor in the long range game. I would feel comfortable to 400 yards, some very good shooters may feel comfortable to 500 with such a rig. To get to 700-800 yards you are probably 1 lb in extra glass plus a heavier barrel. Not to mention a lot more $$$$.

To go from a 400 yard rifle to a 700 yard rifle would you carry and extra 2 lbs? Some would, some wouldn't. If you are backpacking 2 days into spike camp and lugging the rifle up and down mountains all day for 7 days I would go with the lighter one.

I like you picture and that is a nice rifle in it. Undoubtedly more accurate than mine. However, even on a half day hunt it looks pretty clumsy and tiring to carry. I like my little 6 lb rifle even for day hunts.

Here is my rifle sitting in the weeds this last hunting season.
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Leavenworth said:
If anyone has more to add please feel free !
Thank You
Leavenworth
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I've had many custom guns made with HS Precision and Bell & Carlson stocks. Both are most rigid, light, immune to moisture along with cold and heat. You will develop a good relationship with either stock.
 
I just found out that Magpul makes a stock for a 700 long action . Has anyone installed one on a Remington 700 long action ? Pros/Cons ?
Has an aluminium bedding block . Would think that this option would make my 700 more accurate than the current setup with the Factory Classic Wood Stock ? Thoughts
Thanks !
Leavenworth
 
Leavenworth said:
I just found out that Magpul makes a stock for a 700 long action . Has anyone installed one on a Remington 700 long action ? Pros/Cons ?
Has an aluminium bedding block . Would think that this option would make my 700 more accurate than the current setup with the Factory Classic Wood Stock ? Thoughts
Thanks !
Leavenworth
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How much do they weigh?
 
I've made stocks as a dealer here in the past (m14 rifles) and make my own stocks whenever need arises.
Weight of stock and where that weight is located depends on what my rifle is for. I like heavy bench stocks for target shooting but much lighter stocks for hunting and off hand shooting. I also have my .22LR stock weighted and balanced to match my main hunting rifle so I can train with it offhand.
I spent quite a bit of time and money learning advanced composite processes and in last few years have developed a hybrid resin infusion process I use to make cogs and blades for windmill energy systems. I had big plans to make rifle stocks again now that I have a permanent shop that I own instead of rent but with the Liberals and the agenda afoot it was a much safer business decision to look for other products to manufacture with the same equipment.
Let's hope the Liberals are defeated in the next election and a more firearm friendly government is in power...... I would like to start making rifle stocks again but just not gonna play the game with Turdo in power.
 
If you are thinking of going with a Mcmillan - they have a sale on right now for a drop in ready Hunters Edge stock, BDL floor plate, long or short action $499 USD
 
deerfarmer said:
If you are thinking of going with a Mcmillan - they have a sale on right now for a drop in ready Hunters Edge stock, BDL floor plate, long or short action $499 USD
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Smoking deal on a premium product. I bet Nechako outdoors could get that up here for under 800$ cdn.
 
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