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Greetings,

About 6 years ago I moved to an area and had a life style change no longer conducive with regular trips to the range (I was an every other day guy prior to this). I loaded my own ammo and could produce tight groups at 200 yards. I was shooting a rem700 sps tactical.

I am sure in the time that has passed some other bolt actions have come on the market that are as impressive (if not more impressive) in that price category.

To you the reader, what would you recommend for a precise 308 that would run 2000.00 CDN or less (no scope) new (my preference is to keep an eye on this site for a lightly used gun however).

I have a 300 yard range about 50 mins from me so I will most likely get membership at that gun club.

so in summary

precise (working at 300 yards min).
new 2000 cdn (no scope).
308

Kindest Regards,
 
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Ruger Precision Rifle
Savage 110 Elite Precision <-- more than $2k
Sig Cross

These are the new style rifles.

Note that 6.5 Creedmoor is better than 308 in every way, so consider going to that cartridge.

I should also mention that large rifle primers are priced at about $600 per thousand this year, if you can find them. Small rifle primers are a bit less money. So consider going with small rifle primer if you are buying brass.
 
Don't buy a savage. Don't buy a Ruger. Get a Tikka ctr or varmint in a caliber of your choosing. If you like 308, go with that. Lots of other calibers are the hot thing now but unless you are shooting at 1000 plus, the 308 will do the job. I'd look at a ctr and drop it into a krg Bravo or a chassis you like. Put a 20 moa MDT rail on it, scope of your choosing and enjoy
 
Greetings,

About 6 years ago I moved to an area and had a life style change no longer conducive with regular trips to the range (I was an every other day guy prior to this). I loaded my own ammo and could produce tight groups at 200 yards. I was shooting a rem700 sps tactical.

I am sure in the time that has passed some other bolt actions have come on the market that are as impressive (if not more impressive) in that price category.

To you the reader, what would you recommend for a precise 308 that would run 2000.00 CDN or less (no scope) new (my preference is to keep an eye on this site for a lightly used gun however).

I have a 300 yard range about 50 mins from me so I will most likely get membership at that gun club.

so in summary

precise (working at 300 yards min).
new 2000 cdn (no scope).
308

Kindest Regards,

Unless you are well stocked with components from 5/6 years ago, be prepared for real serious "sticker shock" for reloading components - if you can even find them to buy. If you have to go out now to restock - bring yer wallet!!
 
There usually are some real good buys on the EE here - semi custom thru custom, that are great shooters! If it were me, knowing what i know now, i would 110% get a low round Rem 5r gen 1 (stainless) mil-spec with 1-11.25 twist, Especially if the action has been touched up by a reputable smith. Change to a Triggertech with light pull, and you'll have a smokin good shooting almost factory rifle. Brake it if you choose. They pop up for private sale often, and some real good buys if you are patient - have seen many sell for $1100-1500. Beware the clowns asking crazy inflated prices tho.

I have had 4 (two 308's, gen 2 6.5cm, and 223). All were capable of 3/4" or better groups at 200 yds with appropriate SMK's. And easy to tweak down the road.

Yes sticker shock when reloading. However 308 should be do-able, as Varget and other good 308 powders, and good decent bullets, are somewhat available now.
 
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As others have said, get a Tikka (and drop it in a KRG Bravo or MDT XRS, my preference being the XRS) or just get another Rem 700 (preferably one of the 5r ones) and do the same thing. They pop up routinely and there is nothing wrong with a Rem 700. Drop it in an XRS so you run AICS mags and swap out the trigger if you like. There might be a good Bergara in your price range too, they're just Rem 700 clone actions but have pretty good barrels.
 
Add the 223 Rem to your list... way less components, bullets are SOOOO much better today. 300yds is a chip shot for a modern 223. 22cal stuff is typically easier to find as are mid burn rate powders and SR primers.

Me, I would look at a donor action that can accept prefit match barrels. Factory barrels are so hit/miss these days... but the cost to buy a factory rifle has surged in the last couple of years.

My favorite donor is the Rem 783 (good used basic hunting rifles are around $450/500). The HB versions which can come in 308win or 6.5 CM around $650 - I really like these with the larger bolt handle and heavier profile barrel. Operation can be super smooth and accuracy potential is fantastic (I run these actions in my PRS and ELR rifles). Trigger is also easy to tune to have a very nice pull.

the 783 is going back into production and I suspect more options to be on dealer shelves going forward.

LOTs of new chassis and stock options have popped over the last years. The popular trend is towards chassis with det mags... the PRS game has exploded with lots of supporting bits and parts. I find the MDT XRS to suit all the needs/wants I have in both a target stock as well as a PRS stock (chassis don't fit me well).

there is no reason you can't find a Rem 783 donor, spin on a quality match barrel, drop into an XRS stock and stay in your budget. THIS can shoot with the high dollar custom rifles for a fraction of the costs.

If you want to stay with a 308win, cost per bang is around $3+... missing gets real expensive... match barrels are dirt cheap vs the expected lifespan.

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XRS stock, McGowen match barrel in 22 CM, some accessories and bits... easily reach out to 1500yds.

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Based off a factory HB version with lam stock. I had the DBM which is not easily available so this would be factory Det mag typically. The factory mags actually work really well and you can single load by dropping a rd on top easily. With a Mcgowen match barrel in 223Rem... is my new varmint rig. Even with lighter bullets... poking to 800yds is easy. This barrel loves 75gr ELDMs and I have pushed this bullet well past 1000yds.

If you are only range shooting, single loading using a LA may make finding a donor easier IF you are ok with the factory stock or something like a Boyds. No support for the 783 LA in general

other actions that are just as easy to set up include Rem 700, Tikka T3, Wby vanguard/Howa 1500. These are factory actions well built and decent aftermarket support.

Savage used to be my fave but over the years, they have come up with so many variations with an unfortunate range of QC, I can no longer recommend them as a brand. If you want to go this route, make sure you can inspect and test the action/rifle you want. If you can pull the firing pin assembly out of the bolt, make sure yours has a full length spring. If you can find an older Stevens 200 or SA of that era, these can be superb donors... but you can no longer go by name and numberings to mean anything anymore. Weak ejection is a common problem that has plagued this action for years. I am not a fan of the Axis if you want a long term build.

Today, finding loading components is the biggest bottle neck. 6.5 and 30cal are SUPER popular so supplies are strained and costs have skyrocketed. The 22cal is also popular but far more available. 6mm is a tough spot due to massive demands from the PRS crowd. I have moved heavily to 22cal as components are far easier to get.

If you are going to reload, start by trying to source primers THEN decide what you can build around that. NOTE, many popular chamberings have both SR and LR brass. A growing number of shooters will have both primer styles so they can shoot their rifle based on what they can find.

Welcome back and I hope you can get set up for your type of shooting. If I can help, pm or email.

Thanks

Jerry

PS - with the popularity of rimfire PRS, we routinely shoot out to 300yds with accuracy. This tech has come a long ways.
 

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The point about primer availability is a good one. Normally I wouldn't recommend a 6.5 Creed over a .308 for the OP's needs but the lack of availability of large rifle primers in the last year or so has been no joke. I used to primarily shoot .223 and .308 for practice and 6 and 6.5 Creed in matches but don't really shoot much .308 anymore because I want to save my LRP match primers for matches. Now I shoot .223 and 6.5 Creed for practice as I just use Lapua srp brass and use my much more plentiful supply of small rifle primers. I'd steer you towards a .223 for less expensive practice, especially since you shoot 300 and in but finding a factory rifle that has a barrel with the correct twist to stabilize the 75/77gr bullets (that are really the best balance of price/performance) is easier said than done.
 
As mentioned above, sit down when you look up primer prices. I couldn't believe it. I assumed it was a scam but seems to be the norm. Just use whatever caliber you enjoy and can find the parts for. If you shoot factory ammo you should be able to find some. And if your range is short, consider 22lr. It is actually fun, affordable and keeps it challenging without the need of a 1000yard range.
 
Find a gun you like. My only advice would be to find something with a heavy barrel if your plan is to put in lots of paper time. Hunting rlfles get warm fast. I would then suggest that you stick with a cartridge with lots of choices. .223 is fine, and so is the 6.5 Creedmoor. I'd suggest giving the 308 a pass, only because costs for ammo are getting so bad, plus less recoil is better than more when developing your own shooting style. I don't know any shooting nut with only one gun, so jump in and get shooting, You will have time to figure out what you really want along the way.
 
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