Ryan112929
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Just saw your post BCRider. Thanks! I'll check that out!
Consistently inconsistent.
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When you go out to the range again, try using one of these targets also. It may help you identify the issues with each shot. I agree with most posters that formal training ( if available to you) would certainly help. Also there are some reputable guys on Youtube also as suggested before.
Ryan112929
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Awesome info! Thanks guys!
Travis Haley is a pretty easy guy to confirm as a valid expert. A quick search on his name will show that he's won his share of championships and then some. The fact that his method works for me and that when I mess up it's because I fail in the proper hold in some way is another sign that his information is valid.
He's far from the only one that offers that sort of method either. If you search you tube for "pistol grip" with other names such as Todd Jarret, Chris Costa and Jerry Miculek you'll find the same method to a "T" being offered by them as well. It's just that I found the Travis Haley version to be broken down well and easier to follow than the others.
He's far from the only one that offers that sort of method either. If you search you tube for "pistol grip" with other names such as Todd Jarret, Chris Costa and Jerry Miculek you'll find the same method to a "T" being offered by them as well. It's just that I found the Travis Haley version to be broken down well and easier to follow than the others.
I don't dry fire any of my pistols without snap caps
Its fine to dry fire without them in modern, center fire handguns, though if you like working with snap caps (I have some for all of my handguns), fill yer boots.
Some names have already been dropped, so you're good to go, but generally speaking any video from a reputable professional shooter or organization is going to give you good information on the fundamentals. Some common themes will quickly become apparent and then you can sort the wheat from the chaff.
Its fine to dry fire without them in modern, center fire handguns, though if you like working with snap caps (I have some for all of my handguns), fill yer boots.
Boots filled!
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When you go out to the range again, try using one of these targets also. It may help you identify the issues with each shot. I agree with most posters that formal training ( if available to you) would certainly help. Also there are some reputable guys on Youtube also as suggested before.
That target is really only good for diagnosing issues when firing the pistol single handed like in silhouette and other more traditional handgun shooting disciplines. Ideally the best way to get an idea of where you are messing up is going to a class with a good instructor or getting a dialed in pistol shooter to watch you.
I agree with the post about mixing in a snap cap with live ammo (have someone you trust do it). It's an amazing exercise. You'll likely be very surprised about what you feel you're doing versus what you're doing physically. Relaxed muscles absorb recoil. Tense muscles accentuate it.
Every time I take out my Norc .45, this is the result, every time (25 m). I almost got sick of pistols over this too. And to think, I could get to level 27 on duck hunt, shooting from the hip
Glad I finally bough a sweet .22 on EE. I shoot normally with it. But as far as .45 goes, I'm just gonna blame Norinco products, and ignore all my target panic flinches.
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That laser suggestion sounded like a good one. I may try that...soon as I get my g19, and sell this 'obviously bent' .45 (listed as 'mint' for $650...)
Glad I finally bough a sweet .22 on EE. I shoot normally with it. But as far as .45 goes, I'm just gonna blame Norinco products, and ignore all my target panic flinches.
That laser suggestion sounded like a good one. I may try that...soon as I get my g19, and sell this 'obviously bent' .45 (listed as 'mint' for $650...)
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Ryan112929
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Lol. At least I'm not the only one CoonT. I have a bunch of targets in my shop that look pretty much like that one.
This thread is all excellent advice- it's hard for me to add more. As a relatively new shooter to handguns, I can relate to your frustration. They are far FAR different than rifles, and much more difficult to shoot accurately.
A couple things I have to really keep in mind when shooting is to not flinch. If your shooting a .22 it is much less of an issue though. Sometimes it's good to just blow through a magazine or two right at the start to get the jitters out. Sometimes the loud bang is more of a bother than you would think so wearing earplugs underneath a set of muffs may help reduce the flinch.
Another thing is to not force the trigger. Even a little bit will cause the gun to wave. Here's where rifle trigger practice helps, but problems are really magnified in handguns. Dry fire hundreds of times to get used to your specific trigger, especially if it's on the heavy pull side.
Last little bit of advice is something an old veteran shooter told me early on. It's a little trick you can do without a gun in your hand, to make sure your stance is correct and that you are square to the target. Stand facing the wall from 10 feet or so and pick a spot to "aim" at. Make your hands into a gun with your thumbs bent forward to act like a "sight". Close your eyes and bring your hands up in front of you where you feel comfortable taking a shot. Open your eyes and see if you are aiming to the left or right of your spot. If you are aiming to the left, shift your right foot backwards a bit. Left foot back (or right forward) if your aim is to the right. Repeat until you open your eyes and your sight is on target. There's your proper stance. Repeat this at the range but using your gun. Adjust until your stance is square and your sight naturally lines up with the bullseye.
A couple things I have to really keep in mind when shooting is to not flinch. If your shooting a .22 it is much less of an issue though. Sometimes it's good to just blow through a magazine or two right at the start to get the jitters out. Sometimes the loud bang is more of a bother than you would think so wearing earplugs underneath a set of muffs may help reduce the flinch.
Another thing is to not force the trigger. Even a little bit will cause the gun to wave. Here's where rifle trigger practice helps, but problems are really magnified in handguns. Dry fire hundreds of times to get used to your specific trigger, especially if it's on the heavy pull side.
Last little bit of advice is something an old veteran shooter told me early on. It's a little trick you can do without a gun in your hand, to make sure your stance is correct and that you are square to the target. Stand facing the wall from 10 feet or so and pick a spot to "aim" at. Make your hands into a gun with your thumbs bent forward to act like a "sight". Close your eyes and bring your hands up in front of you where you feel comfortable taking a shot. Open your eyes and see if you are aiming to the left or right of your spot. If you are aiming to the left, shift your right foot backwards a bit. Left foot back (or right forward) if your aim is to the right. Repeat until you open your eyes and your sight is on target. There's your proper stance. Repeat this at the range but using your gun. Adjust until your stance is square and your sight naturally lines up with the bullseye.
Ryan112929
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Some great ideas and advice. I appreciate all you guys taking the time. I've got some pretty good stuff to try out and some pretty interesting vids that I've watched this weekend so far! Thanks again everyone
