Converting Bolt Actions for Clips

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So, I've been thinking about this for a while and was wondering if anyone had some insight on this. I purchased a Lee Enfield No5 a while ago and love it. What I don't love is the ammo cost and after a while, the recoil. So I've been wanting a bolt action that fires possibly the 7.62×39. That being said, I'd also want it to have a good set of iron sights, preferably a peep sight. Unfortunately, it seems like most manufacturers don't offer this.

So what would people recommend to convert. Is there a rifle that could do it all for me? Peep sights and clips in 7.62x39? Or is this just an unrealistic idea at this point? Thanks
 
You can "shoot" 7.62x39 in your #5 by pulling down the 7.62x39 and putting the powder and bullet into 303 primed brass.

In other words, handloading.
 
So, I've been thinking about this for a while and was wondering if anyone had some insight on this. I purchased a Lee Enfield No5 a while ago and love it. What I don't love is the ammo cost and after a while, the recoil. So I've been wanting a bolt action that fires possibly the 7.62×39. That being said, I'd also want it to have a good set of iron sights, preferably a peep sight. Unfortunately, it seems like most manufacturers don't offer this.

So what would people recommend to convert. Is there a rifle that could do it all for me? Peep sights and clips in 7.62x39? Or is this just an unrealistic idea at this point? Thanks

They do exist--Savage Scout comes configured this way. I have one converted to standard mid-barrel site. I would probably sell for what I have into it, although I like it.
 
The CZ is your best bet, but I think norinco also made them in the JW- series rifle. I shouldn’t mention the two in the same sentence, as they are on opposite ends of the quality spectrum, but the Norinco is cheap and can be found in the EE sometimes. Whereas the CZ will likely come with beautiful wood and feel like something of a heirloom you’d be proud to own and like to pass to a grandchild one day.

Howa also does sell their mini action in 7.62 with 5 or 10 round mags. No open sights but you could order something from NECG.
 
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So, I've been thinking about this for a while and was wondering if anyone had some insight on this. I purchased a Lee Enfield No5 a while ago and love it. What I don't love is the ammo cost and after a while, the recoil. So I've been wanting a bolt action that fires possibly the 7.62×39. That being said, I'd also want it to have a good set of iron sights, preferably a peep sight. Unfortunately, it seems like most manufacturers don't offer this.

So what would people recommend to convert. Is there a rifle that could do it all for me? Peep sights and clips in 7.62x39? Or is this just an unrealistic idea at this point? Thanks

You have three questions there.

That battle sight on any No.4 or No.5 is superior to almost any other WW2 battle rifle. Results at my club's milsurp matches prove that. The only rifle more consistently at the top of the winners' list has been the Garand. The Mausers with forward notch sights just don't compete, and the Swiss rifles do very well except for the cost of their ammo. So, do you have a 90-deg flip back sight in which case yes better ones were issued? Or, is the sight something someone has modified (ie Bubba'd) along the way?

Secondly, 7.62x39 to .303BR is a known down grade to make them more affordable to shoot. Reprime fired Boxer primer cases and move the components over. I say Berdan not Boxer primer cases, because poking out a Boxer primer is just so much easier than trying to hook out a Berdan primer. There is no central flash hole, only a built in anvil. Commercial 303 is most likely Boxer, as well as Canadian wartime DI Z cases.

Third, I don't understand what you mean by clips. From you posting count, I think you are not long in the shooting game. Terminology is vital when discussing firearms. A magazine is not a clip. Even though the four-letter word gets applied to the seven-letter word incorrectly. A stripper clip holds 5 or 10 loose rounds. For many military rifles, there is already a slot in the top of the receiver so rounds in stripper clips can be top loaded into the rifle's attached magazine. Stripper clips were one-time use to top up a loaded magazine. Got it? The exception is a US Garand which has no box magazine, and the 8-round "en bloc" clip seats inside the rifle and the mechanism loads the ammunition from the clip until it is empty and you get that lovely "PING!" ejection.
 
.... What I don't love is the ammo cost and after a while, the recoil. So I've been wanting a bolt action that fires possibly the 7.62×39. ....

.... Peep sights and clips in 7.62x39? Or is this just an unrealistic idea at this point? Thanks

Why not get an SKS and avoid all the issues of chasing a difficult to find rifle?
 
You have three questions there.

That battle sight on any No.4 or No.5 is superior to almost any other WW2 battle rifle. Results at my club's milsurp matches prove that. The only rifle more consistently at the top of the winners' list has been the Garand. The Mausers with forward notch sights just don't compete, and the Swiss rifles do very well except for the cost of their ammo. So, do you have a 90-deg flip back sight in which case yes better ones were issued? Or, is the sight something someone has modified (ie Bubba'd) along the way?

Secondly, 7.62x39 to .303BR is a known down grade to make them more affordable to shoot. Reprime fired Boxer primer cases and move the components over. I say Berdan not Boxer primer cases, because poking out a Boxer primer is just so much easier than trying to hook out a Berdan primer. There is no central flash hole, only a built in anvil. Commercial 303 is most likely Boxer, as well as Canadian wartime DI Z cases.

Third, I don't understand what you mean by clips. From you posting count, I think you are not long in the shooting game. Terminology is vital when discussing firearms. A magazine is not a clip. Even though the four-letter word gets applied to the seven-letter word incorrectly. A stripper clip holds 5 or 10 loose rounds. For many military rifles, there is already a slot in the top of the receiver so rounds in stripper clips can be top loaded into the rifle's attached magazine. Stripper clips were one-time use to top up a loaded magazine. Got it? The exception is a US Garand which has no box magazine, and the 8-round "en bloc" clip seats inside the rifle and the mechanism loads the ammunition from the clip until it is empty and you get that lovely "PING!" ejection.

I believe the OP is referring to stripper clips. And yes, some bolt actions have been made to use them through the years. - dan
 
I think the OP is confusing stripper clips

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with magazines
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, and he wants a removable magazine.
 
How much money and effort are you looking for? You could convert a Carcano to 7.62x39 by rebarreling it and could then install a peep sight. Then it would feed with the 6rd Carcano clips and you would have a handy little bolt action.
 
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