Thanks for the info folks, while I was messing with it I accidentally separated the two main pieces of the bolt body, it appears theat I have stripped the threads on the retaining collet which apparently was only threaded ever so slightly. The good news is the female threads appear undammaged so I should be able to clean up the collet and re thread it without to much trouble but I am still not sure about the bolt/reciever guide pin removal as it is not visible from the opposite side. Maybe Winchester is right a new bolt would probably be quicker and less frustrating but it is a spare bolt anyway, just wanted to figure it out and finish what i had started...for once. Cheers, Ken Watts.