Coonan/Les Baer/Desert Eagle table top comparaison
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To the untrained eye they may appear to be live rounds.....
but caramel is one of the rare souls like myself that loads foam projectiles painted with lead free environmentally friendly copper paint....
.....and uses inert synthetic primers capping off actual shell casings filled with nitrate free dirt for the video.
can't be too careful these days.
Wouldn't want anyone to think theres a reckless party among us.
just in case someone else has an issue with it..... *eyes rolling*
but caramel is one of the rare souls like myself that loads foam projectiles painted with lead free environmentally friendly copper paint....
.....and uses inert synthetic primers capping off actual shell casings filled with nitrate free dirt for the video.
can't be too careful these days.
Wouldn't want anyone to think theres a reckless party among us.
just in case someone else has an issue with it..... *eyes rolling*
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.357 Coolness
Photos taken with inert rounds and the cleaning rod was protected by a sheet of transparent bulletproof glass not visible in photo imagery.
heaven forbid that the gun should load automatically and the trigger pull itself while I take a picture at the range.
Safety Nazi's.....please just remember that this activity is supposed to be safe but still fun.
I'll bet that guy is the kind of person who yells out in the theatre that the hero has cocked his semi auto even though he's already fired it.....
don't ruin it for the rest of us pretty pls with sugar on top.
Sorry....this is a pet peeve of mine.
Photos taken with inert rounds and the cleaning rod was protected by a sheet of transparent bulletproof glass not visible in photo imagery.
heaven forbid that the gun should load automatically and the trigger pull itself while I take a picture at the range.
Safety Nazi's.....please just remember that this activity is supposed to be safe but still fun.
I'll bet that guy is the kind of person who yells out in the theatre that the hero has cocked his semi auto even though he's already fired it.....
don't ruin it for the rest of us pretty pls with sugar on top.
Sorry....this is a pet peeve of mine.
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I guess you're about as good a gambler as you are at responding to something with relevant input.
Let's do a quick comparison:
1. The original post I responded to included a video showing what APPEARED to be live ammunition being cycled through a firearm in a location that was most certainly not an appropriate venue.
2. You posted a static photo of a firearm surrounded by some ammunition and a cleaning rod.
Not quite the same thing, is it? While I can't see the "inert synthetic primers", I will commend you on your craftsmanship in creating such realistic looking inert rounds to showcase in your mediocre photo. *eyes rolling*
I shoot and train a considerable amount, and I can recount numerous tales of "people who knew people" who managed to put holes in windows, hot water tanks, water heaters, light switches, etc - while "dry" firing. I know personally of one incident where a .223 went through a wall and into a computer monitor during an organized training function involving law enforcement. Guess what, a live round got mixed in with the box of visually almost identical inert practice rounds.
Any which way you cut it, it's just plain stupid. If you want to do it, fine - just don't post it on a forum and/or cry "Safety Nazi!" when someone calls you or someone else out on being an idiot. If you put a hole in something, that's your problem - let's hope it isn't something organic that suffers the consequences. But of course it won't happen to you, so it makes sense to advocate it for everyone else. Right.
Also consider the audience when posting on a forum - such as the new enthusiast who sees this activity, and in their excitement thinks "Wow! That's so cool - if Mr Internet Famous does it, it MUST be okay to do!" without having the benefit of someone who isn't an idiot telling them that it's a bad idea, and to use legit inert practice rounds for that kind of activity.
This sport IS fun, and it IS safe - it just takes some common sense, and enough humility to recognize that certain activities have too great a risk/benefit ratio to warrant doing - or at least doing publicly.
Let's do a quick comparison:
1. The original post I responded to included a video showing what APPEARED to be live ammunition being cycled through a firearm in a location that was most certainly not an appropriate venue.
2. You posted a static photo of a firearm surrounded by some ammunition and a cleaning rod.
Not quite the same thing, is it? While I can't see the "inert synthetic primers", I will commend you on your craftsmanship in creating such realistic looking inert rounds to showcase in your mediocre photo. *eyes rolling*
I shoot and train a considerable amount, and I can recount numerous tales of "people who knew people" who managed to put holes in windows, hot water tanks, water heaters, light switches, etc - while "dry" firing. I know personally of one incident where a .223 went through a wall and into a computer monitor during an organized training function involving law enforcement. Guess what, a live round got mixed in with the box of visually almost identical inert practice rounds.
Any which way you cut it, it's just plain stupid. If you want to do it, fine - just don't post it on a forum and/or cry "Safety Nazi!" when someone calls you or someone else out on being an idiot. If you put a hole in something, that's your problem - let's hope it isn't something organic that suffers the consequences. But of course it won't happen to you, so it makes sense to advocate it for everyone else. Right.
Also consider the audience when posting on a forum - such as the new enthusiast who sees this activity, and in their excitement thinks "Wow! That's so cool - if Mr Internet Famous does it, it MUST be okay to do!" without having the benefit of someone who isn't an idiot telling them that it's a bad idea, and to use legit inert practice rounds for that kind of activity.
This sport IS fun, and it IS safe - it just takes some common sense, and enough humility to recognize that certain activities have too great a risk/benefit ratio to warrant doing - or at least doing publicly.
That response is so fantastic I can't tell if your agreeing or berating me.
Either way. I have to say. Your comment has come about two day's and 3 posts too late for my taste.
I congratulate you on your enthusiasm as well as your timing.
No one here is going to argue that chambering dummy rounds that look alot like live ones might be a practice fraught with shortcomings
then again one might argue that if the kid shoots himself in the foot because he's gotten confused, that it's someone Darwinian in its effect.
Keep it light snoot. Lifes too short to get completely bent on this.
PS I apologize for the mediocrity of my photography skills... everyone starts somewhere I suppose.
and Im glad your here to tell everyone whats unsafe. I feel better already....
Reminds me of a girl I knew back in highschool....she used to love pointing out to people what was safe and unsafe.
she always had to be right....and was constantly plagued by dirty looks Im sure were the result of this superiority complex she had.
what was her name again.....hmmmm......Avril....no I think she changed her name.....ummm.... OH YEAH!!! LITTLE KIMMY CAMPBELL
nice girl. big dreams. nervous nelly and always knew what was best for everyone.
Either way. I have to say. Your comment has come about two day's and 3 posts too late for my taste.
I congratulate you on your enthusiasm as well as your timing.
No one here is going to argue that chambering dummy rounds that look alot like live ones might be a practice fraught with shortcomings
then again one might argue that if the kid shoots himself in the foot because he's gotten confused, that it's someone Darwinian in its effect.
Keep it light snoot. Lifes too short to get completely bent on this.
PS I apologize for the mediocrity of my photography skills... everyone starts somewhere I suppose.
and Im glad your here to tell everyone whats unsafe. I feel better already....
Reminds me of a girl I knew back in highschool....she used to love pointing out to people what was safe and unsafe.
she always had to be right....and was constantly plagued by dirty looks Im sure were the result of this superiority complex she had.
what was her name again.....hmmmm......Avril....no I think she changed her name.....ummm.... OH YEAH!!! LITTLE KIMMY CAMPBELL
nice girl. big dreams. nervous nelly and always knew what was best for everyone.
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No worries caramel i too have inerts loaded from the real thing.
The only advice id have, and it would half please some stupidity here,
Do not put sand in them, leave priming pocket empty, put all the dummies (the ammo not the people) in a bullet tray facing downwards when using them in a cycling activity.
When you take the tray out for said activity, all empty pockets are easily IDed before starting.
The only advice id have, and it would half please some stupidity here,
Do not put sand in them, leave priming pocket empty, put all the dummies (the ammo not the people) in a bullet tray facing downwards when using them in a cycling activity.
When you take the tray out for said activity, all empty pockets are easily IDed before starting.
Yep those things were happening, but for me, it was more about personal freedom, one thing i remember, driving my Z1 Kawasaki 900 1972, MTL/Toronto going see a Rock show at the Maple leaf Garden with miss caramel on the back, both no helmets at 90MPH... This is great souvenirs of the past... JP.
Never realized the Coonan's were so expensive.
Are they worth it? Last time I handled one on .357, it appeared pretty rough, almost like an AMT 1911 in stainless. Have they resolved the galling problems? $2k seems pretty high.
Are they worth it? Last time I handled one on .357, it appeared pretty rough, almost like an AMT 1911 in stainless. Have they resolved the galling problems? $2k seems pretty high.
