Copper bullet for bear ?
- Thread starter zherock
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How many interlocks/hotcores/and grandslams have you stuck in animals? What species? What calibers and cartridges? Shot presentations? Distances?
Just curious as to the depth of experience thst has brought you to the conclusion of “marketing hype”.
DiabeticKripple
CGN Regular
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- Red Deer, Alberta
for a little over $1/bullet, i know that i can have to confidence in my ammo to perform, even if i dont do my job.
Any bullet will kill if placed well in the vitals, its the shots that arent perfect thats where the right bullet will count.
DiabeticKripple
CGN Regular
- Location
- Red Deer, Alberta
I think I misrepresented it.
Say youre shooting a moose, he whirls right before you shoot, and you hit him in the shoulder. Would you rather be shooting a TTSX or a cheap cup and core?
No bullet will make up for a gut shot. But a premium bullet might make it up if you hit bone on the way in. I feel better shooting a better bullet.
It sounds better when you say it like this:
"I want a bullet that performs well when everything goes wrong, not just when everything goes right"
DiabeticKripple
CGN Regular
- Location
- Red Deer, Alberta
It sounds better when you say it like this:
"I want a bullet that performs well when everything goes wrong, not just when everything goes right"
Haha 15 days of 14hr long nightshifts have my brain fried. Thanks for saying what I was thinking.
I Have shot a FEW animals with Barnes TTSX and Hornady GMX bullets and they both KILLED Well ! BUT also have used Nosler Partitions and Nosler Accubonds AND OTHERS with Equal Success too ! I have NEVER lost a animal in 55 + year's of HUNTING - Pretty LUCKY i guess or JUST always made Good Shots ! RJ
Back to the OP's question i like the TTSX on Bears - TUFF bullet ! jmo RJ
Back to the OP's question i like the TTSX on Bears - TUFF bullet ! jmo RJ
A bullet i like for bears is a heavier hornady sst. They make a mess of the insides and hold together well if not pushed over 2900fps. Often exit as well. Ive also foubd that flat nose and roundnose bullets have much greater visual impact signs and often expand or in the case of hardcast just plow large tunnels thru soft game
It doesnt make up for bad placement though. Ive suffered the fate of bad placement on a bear and i had to give her a close range finishing shot. 168 paces at a slow running bear. She changed direction and took a 405gr fn to the hip. It rolled her over and i lost sight of her. Several minutes went by and i lit a cigar. While lighting my cigar she got up and climbed a 30' riseand got into some real thick spruce. I can say i was amazed to walk up and look over the log and she wasnt there. No blood no fur. I gave it 20 mins and then started circling the area. Got up on top of the rise and into the thick bush when she growled. It wasnt a polite growl and it was close. I retreated and got downwind with a visual of the area. Had a coke and another cigar and went back in to where the growl was only to end up shooting her at less then 5' as she rushed out from under a fallen spruce. She hit the ground bounced back up and i almost gave her another before she fell. The first bullet smashed her rear hips and about 9" of lower spine before travelling up along the backstrap (i said it was a bad placement) breaking all but one rib and ended up breaking the front shoulder and coming to rest under the hide of the chest right where the fur comes together to make that lil ridge or blade of fur. Back tracking there was no sign of blood as the bullet entered above centerline and she stayed upright as she dragged herself along. Even with only the front paws theyre extremely fast. The second shot made a giant hole. The bullet left about an 8" hole clear thru the ribcage. That was a 405gr fnsp at 2400fps from a 458wm. Every other bear hit with that gun has just dropped but a bad shot is a bad shot. No bullet would have done any better as the bullets travelled above the vitals.
On the other hand my 2506 kills just as impressively with 120gr positive expanding winchester grey box loads. Not sure which bullet the factory uses but its wicked on game
It doesnt make up for bad placement though. Ive suffered the fate of bad placement on a bear and i had to give her a close range finishing shot. 168 paces at a slow running bear. She changed direction and took a 405gr fn to the hip. It rolled her over and i lost sight of her. Several minutes went by and i lit a cigar. While lighting my cigar she got up and climbed a 30' riseand got into some real thick spruce. I can say i was amazed to walk up and look over the log and she wasnt there. No blood no fur. I gave it 20 mins and then started circling the area. Got up on top of the rise and into the thick bush when she growled. It wasnt a polite growl and it was close. I retreated and got downwind with a visual of the area. Had a coke and another cigar and went back in to where the growl was only to end up shooting her at less then 5' as she rushed out from under a fallen spruce. She hit the ground bounced back up and i almost gave her another before she fell. The first bullet smashed her rear hips and about 9" of lower spine before travelling up along the backstrap (i said it was a bad placement) breaking all but one rib and ended up breaking the front shoulder and coming to rest under the hide of the chest right where the fur comes together to make that lil ridge or blade of fur. Back tracking there was no sign of blood as the bullet entered above centerline and she stayed upright as she dragged herself along. Even with only the front paws theyre extremely fast. The second shot made a giant hole. The bullet left about an 8" hole clear thru the ribcage. That was a 405gr fnsp at 2400fps from a 458wm. Every other bear hit with that gun has just dropped but a bad shot is a bad shot. No bullet would have done any better as the bullets travelled above the vitals.
On the other hand my 2506 kills just as impressively with 120gr positive expanding winchester grey box loads. Not sure which bullet the factory uses but its wicked on game
