One extra step while cleaning, yes, but sometimes you don't want to, or don't always have the time to clean it right that night, where if it's non corrosive, i can clean it tomorrow or next week. Or if i just bring it out to sight it in and put a few rounds through it, i don't feel like tearing it down completely for the sake of 6 shots.
Corrosive 7.62x39 sold as "non-corrosive"
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One extra step while cleaning, yes, but sometimes you don't want to, or don't always have the time to clean it right that night, where if it's non corrosive, i can clean it tomorrow or next week. Or if i just bring it out to sight it in and put a few rounds through it, i don't feel like tearing it down completely for the sake of 6 shots.
Right, I hear ya. But in cases like sighting in with a few rounds, I'll pick up a 20 pack of Barnauls NC for $10.00.
Or if I don't have time to clean afterwards, I bring out my 12g and 30-30 instead of my milsurp stuff.
Options man! Gotta have options!
Right, I hear ya. But in cases like sighting in with a few rounds, I'll pick up a 20 pack of Barnauls NC for $10.00.
Or if I don't have time to clean afterwards, I bring out my 12g and 30-30 instead of my milsurp stuff.
Options man! Gotta have options!
so your saying that u will buy nc when you don't want to clean your sks, isn't that what op did? he though he bought nc so he didnt have to do the full cleaning
No. I said if I only wanted to shoot 10 or 20 rounds for sighting purposes, I will buy the easily accessible 20 pk of Barnauls. Otherwise it's 99.9% corrosive down my barrels.
I account for cleaning time when I set aside shooting days. It's part of the whole process that I signed up for with this hobby.
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How would that clean your gas system?
All it would do is put new crap on top of old crap.
Think about it..........
Full disassembly and cleaning each time with corrosive. This includes the bolt block/firing pin. Otherwise, it will take hours to polish out the rust and you might have a full-auto surprise the next time out. I experienced light primer strikes the one time I did not dissemble the bolt block.
Because it's only considered fraudulent if you can prove prior knowledge of the discrepancy by the seller, and that malice was inferred or intended.
People are so quick to assume they are being deliberately deceived. Fraud is a nasty word and should not be thrown around lightly.
My God no that's entirely wrong! It is the responsibility of the seller to advertise correctly. Tort cases actually follow the chain of negligence and can hold all parties accountable to another. i.e. retailer is accountable to end client, distributor is accountable to retailer, manufacturer is accountable to distributor, raw materials producers are accountable to manufacturer, that is regardless of knowledge or intent, it is still negligence even if you pretend that you didn't know about it. And frankly they know about it from all the complaints.
In this case retailer is accountable to client. Client can sue retailer for damages due to the direct correlation of misrepresented product damaging property.
I work in aircraft manufacturing I know this very well. When an airplane falls from the sky first accountable to the clients (passengers) is the airline, then the airline can sue the manufacturer (boeing, airbus, gulfstream, etc), then the manufacturer can sue their suppliers of sub assemblies, then the suppliers can sue the raw materials.
So even if the fault is at the end of the chain i.e. raw materials, they are all accountable for damages.
If lever wants to sue his distributor sure he's allowed to do that absolutely, but first they are accountable to their clients.
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You are talking about negligence and liability, he is talking about fraud.
You guys are talking about 2 different things.
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I just wish people would actually think about things before asking.
Sometimes the answer is pretty obvious.
I never ridiculed him, only suggested thinking about the issue.
Right.
The word "fraudulent" is incorrectly being used regarding the topic at hand.
If anything, a more appropriate label would be "Misleading Advertising."
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"...how can they get away with that?..." They pay their clerks minimum wage, expect them to have the required PAL and give them no training. It's the same in every retailer.
"...Which is bullchit..." No it isn't.
"...their false advertising they owe you two replacements..." Kind of like to see that happen. Good luck. It'll cost you in at least 5 figure to sue anybody and only the lawyers will get paid.
Surplus ammo comes with no guarantees. If you buy cheap ammo, you get cheap ammo. If there's ever any doubt treat it as corrosively primed.
"...Which is bullchit..." No it isn't.
"...their false advertising they owe you two replacements..." Kind of like to see that happen. Good luck. It'll cost you in at least 5 figure to sue anybody and only the lawyers will get paid.
Surplus ammo comes with no guarantees. If you buy cheap ammo, you get cheap ammo. If there's ever any doubt treat it as corrosively primed.
Learn to use the multi quote feature already. That way we all know who you are "schooling" with your presumptuous rebuttals.
Otherwise it just looks like you are having a "call and answer" conversation with yourself.
####ing hornets nest! lol so after spending several hours last night in a mad panic going through a gallon of vinegar and half a can of wd40, running scotch brite through my chambers and barrels they seem to be much better. it is sad to hear that this has happened to others as well and that people have confronted them and they still market it as non-corrosive. I will probably not get a lawyer and try and sue or anything like that as I am a poor student and have neither the time or money to fight them.
I have no problem with corrosive ammo, I use it quite often. but I know that once I am done shooting, the clock is ticking to get those salts out of my gun. for all of you who rush home and clean all firearms like a madman after each shooting session, even when you shoot clean ammo, good for you. I don't, because I used to and I found that it makes little difference to the life and longevity of the firearm if you clean it after 50 or 1000 rounds. Do you go home after a match and clean your gun before next days match? crazy.
I have no problem with corrosive ammo, I use it quite often. but I know that once I am done shooting, the clock is ticking to get those salts out of my gun. for all of you who rush home and clean all firearms like a madman after each shooting session, even when you shoot clean ammo, good for you. I don't, because I used to and I found that it makes little difference to the life and longevity of the firearm if you clean it after 50 or 1000 rounds. Do you go home after a match and clean your gun before next days match? crazy.
