cossack muzzleloaders

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the town where i live has asked me to consider joining their cossacks.

it would require me to have a black powder rifle to fire blanks in parades etc.

i have a trade gun and a couple of rifled hawken styles. there is only one other rifleman & he is shooting a brown bess. :eek:

what did cossack regiments shoot? i am thinking something probably french, but who knows.
this could be a good excuse to buy a new toy!

cheers
 
The primary muzzleloader back in the 'day' was the Model 1857 six line rifled muzzleloader. I can't say whether cossack units would have used a modified version of it, but its likely they did. Before that it was a typical smoothbore musket that would have been procured in any country that could supply what the Russian Arsenals couldn't keep up with.

Found some more info, prior to this the Russians used what they called a the 1845, which was effectively a copy of the French model 1842, except with brass accouterments. Hope that helps.
 
Would this happen to be in the Dauphin, MB, area and involving a certain troupe inspired by the 16th century Zaporozhian Cossacks?

Your best bet would probably be any modern replica muzzleloading flintlock. (you're going to be shooting "blank" (black powder and wad only) charges, right?)

I think you might be looking for a "семипя'денний самопал" :) (basically, a musket as long as seven outstretched hands (thumb to tip of outstretched little finger) of the "self-igniting" (flintlock/wheellock/shaphaunce) variety).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Repin_Cossacks.jpg

Check out the lock on the musket slung on the fellow standing off to the left. Arquebus with a snaphaunce or wheellock?
 
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"...what did Cossack regiments shoot?..." When?
"...be a good excuse to..." Reason. Mind you, "I want one." is reason enough.
16th Century Cossacks likely had no firearms. The technology of the day was match and wheel locks. Match locks don't work on a horse and wheel locks would have been far too expensive.
 
Depends on which period you are reenacting....

If its the flintlock period, I would go for a early musket with bands...Like the pattern 1763 or 1766 charleville "they have steel pans and bands"

That would be a good starter to get you active with your historic group.

Their great shooters aswell!

Here's mine born from a unbuilt 35 year old miroku kit I bought 4 years ago "great score b.t.w" I have used her in rev war and civil war events she works great fast 100% reliable ignition just a pleasure!!

"For the record shes called a 1795 springfield when im doing civil war;)"
Soon ill have me one of them new fangled percussion rifle muskets them union boys have"

You could defarb a 66 charleville to fit your needs with a bit of file work,some tula arsenal stamps and some patience,
thinking about it,
this is really the common pattern of most European nations arms, from its inception until the early cartridge era, used by most nations except England as English arms had barrels pinned to their stocks well into the percussion era.

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good call A-zone.

i don't think i could be seen with a pimped out muzzle loader tho... arquebus ... or whatever it is... wheel lock would be cool, but keeping it running would probably require a watch repairman.

those cossacks do party tho.
 
Seventy-calibre.
Ball trigger.
Flinter.
Ball pouch.
Three flasks: Powder, Priming, Ombrega.
Shashka.
How well can you Kolomayka?

Sounds pure FUN!

I'm not gonna get in YOU guys' road!

On the other hand, what about a Moisin-Nagant Dragoon Rifle with a KA3 serial number prefix? Correct to 1917, anyway.
 
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The Hermitage Museum in St. Petersburg, published a book on the arms in the museum.
The abouve picture shows a correct cossack musket. The Berdan rifle issued to the Cossacks had a ball trigger with no guard. The lock is probably a Miquelet lock.
 
i can kolomayka for hours if i have a chair to sit on!:D

just don't ask me to polka!

not sure what ombrega is but if it's a ring of garlic sausage i can do that!

i am sure that the only period correct rifle is a baker rifle ! ;)

trouble is loyalist arms only has smooth bores in their bakers!

dang ! a blunderbuss may be period correct tho!

plus i could drive other hunters crazy during duck/goose season!

all i would need would be a camo quaker outfit ... those top hats are cool!

cheers

thx for your help guys.
 
ombrega = home brew.

you can use kumiss if you really want to.

i've never been up to your big bash there; might come up next year, i'm thinking.

have lotsa funs!
 
ombrega???

i believe i have a ombrega (home brew) allergy.

if i drink more than a quart of it i get very dizzy and the next day i have a headache.

the sacrifices one must make for art!:D

that is an extremely cool hat fer sure! gots ta get me one of those.

plus i can always wear it to hockey games!

cheers
hh
 
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