Could hardly believe my ears

I think 30.06 is a very practical and reasonable choice for a hunting rifle. While there are many other calibers that I own and shoot, I always seem to go back to the 30.06 as a preference. From 55gr accelerators to 250 gr bullnose slugs, it has everything I've ever needed. I've been slowly selling off my other rifles and accessories for lack of use. In 35 years, I've owned and shot them all.

What ever caliber works best, you should stay with it. If I had a choice of only one, it would be 30.06. I think the salesman had good,practical advice, especially for a first rifle and availability of ammo.
 
SuperCub said:
..... Or on the other hand, most 30/06 users are hunters instead of shooters and prefer not to tinker with endless lists of cartidges that offer almost nothing over the '06. ;)
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Agreed, had every thing from .222RM (takes deer on Vancouver Island:eek: - no not me) .243. 257R, 7mmRM, .308,. 30-06, both .303s, .338 WM, .38-55 and my choice was almost always the .30-06. Loved my P17 self built sporter Winch .30-06 sporter, most accurae rifle every owned above .257.

Any one who tries to sell any thing with any BS in the sales pitch is not only a charlatan but a fool. He has no way of knowing, even from the prospective buyers questions, just how well informed he really is. Any BS detected by the client immediately will turn him off.

My rant for the day...:eek:
 
This post is funny that it gives no merit to the newbie.

We are probably talking about a young person who has buddies or family that enjoy hunting and he/she would like to participate. Most likely has recently acquired or in the process of getting a valid PAL and is in the education process concerning abilities and usefulness of said hunting rifles. Also withstanding is the knowledge gained from the PAL instruction and all the questions from it. This newbie has saved or is saving for a decent rifle and most likely does not have thousands of dollars doing nothing like us old farts who have worked all our lives. Guns are not cheap and getting into them does not instantly happen. This is a thought out financial and personal process.


This Newbie has most likely talked non-stop to any and everyone about hunting and hunting rifles. They've spoke to uncles, grand-dads, friends, neighbors, co-workers, salesman, ect. and will probably make a good choice for their first hunting rifle. I very much doubt that this newbie will buy a rifle solely based on one salesman's opinion. The Newbie has looked in every store in town and has googled every rifle from flintlock to semi-automatics.


At the end of the day, they will get their first firearm of many, just like everyone on this board. You have to give the newbie some credit, in twenty years, they'll be one of us.
 
The 30-06 is my fovorite cartridge where I have owned about 6 of them. It is the best all around cartridge for all North American big game, however; I don't think it is the best cartridge for antelope or moose. A fast flat cartridge like the 240 weatherby, 257, weatherby, 25-06, 6.5x55 and such would be perfect for smaller big game. As for moose, the 300 weatherby, 338 winchester mag, 375 H&H, and all 9.3's would be perfect. The antelope in my avatar was killed last year with a 240 weatherby using an 85 grain nosler partition. The buck was "face on" at 300 yards when I shot him where the bullet entered the neck/chest area and exited the far end of it's hind. I agree that the 30-06 is the best all around cartridge but not a perfect cartridge from the smallest to largest big game. Besides, having only one gun/cartridge would not be fun, and as they say, "variety is the spice of life".:cheers:
 
carverk said:
The 30-06 is about the most practical caliber out their.
That and a good 22lr is all a person really needs.
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AGGGHHHH!!! Heretic!!!!!! Needing only 2 guns??????? Are you a plant from the NDP?????? Good God! two guns being enough? How dare you? Any shooter desperately needs at least a pair of 12 gauges. And what about an SKS????? Oh yeah, have you forgotten about black powder? You MUST have at least 1 in-line, a regular percussion gun, and a flinch-lock. How can one survive without a .303, a 7.62 X 54R, a 6.5 X 55? IF there are any trees at all growing in your area, what a bout a 30-30 or 32 Spl? (or both). Oh, we never even touched on a .308. How can you survive without a .223? Then of course, 3 or 4 belted magnums are a definite NEED TO HAVE. Come to think of it, anyone with less than 15 guns is seriously undernourished. A 30-06 and a .22 are all you need? PSHAW and SHAME ON YOU!!!!
 
What is forgotten here is that the person behind the counter at a gun store is there to sell guns. It is nice to see someone like Kirk is talking about, but, he may not be a good seller of guns.
Waaaay back, when the Remington 600 came out, a mother brought her far from rugged looking twelve year old son along, to buy him his first rifle. She had seen the Model 600 and thought it would be a cute gun for her son and she wanted it in 308 calibre. I might add that this was even before the time of ear muffs for protection from noise. Virtually no one used any type of ear protection when shooting.
The salesman, an honest person who also knew firearms, tried to explain to her how the 600 in 308 would be mighty rough for a boys first gun. She was insistant that she wanted a 600. Salesman then said that a 35 Remington would be a far better calibre for him, being much easier to shoot. The woman said she would think about this, and left.
She went straight across the street to another hardware store and came out with a Remington Model 600, in 308 calibre.
Rule number one for selling firearms. Sell them what the customer wants. Doesn't matter if it is a 375 H & H for a first time shooter wanting to hunt deer, or someone wanting a 222 to hunt moose with.
The customer will never come back angry at the store, if he was sold the firearm he asked for. And selling guns has always been a tough racket.
 
H4831 said:
What is forgotten here is that the person behind the counter at a gun store is there to sell guns. It is nice to see someone like Kirk is talking about, but, he may not be a good seller of guns.
Waaaay back, when the Remington 600 came out, a mother brought her far from rugged looking twelve year old son along, to buy him his first rifle. She had seen the Model 600 and thought it would be a cute gun for her son and she wanted it in 308 calibre. I might add that this was even before the time of ear muffs for protection from noise. Virtually no one used any type of ear protection when shooting.
The salesman, an honest person who also knew firearms, tried to explain to her how the 600 in 308 would be mighty rough for a boys first gun. She was insistant that she wanted a 600. Salesman then said that a 35 Remington would be a far better calibre for him, being much easier to shoot. The woman said she would think about this, and left.
She went straight across the street to another hardware store and came out with a Remington Model 600, in 308 calibre.
Rule number one for selling firearms. Sell them what the customer wants. Doesn't matter if it is a 375 H & H for a first time shooter wanting to hunt deer, or someone wanting a 222 to hunt moose with.
The customer will never come back angry at the store, if he was sold the firearm he asked for. And selling guns has always been a tough racket.
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Welcome to the club. My first cf was a 660 in .308. I was 10. My Dad bought the 350 rem. in 660. Great little rifles.
 
Glad to hear that have at least one employee who has some sort of clue.
I was looking at a pellet gun there one day. I asked the guy a question, he gave me an answer...read the box for a second...he was wrong. Asked him another question, he gave me an answer, read the box a little more...wrong again...repeat.
 
Gunslingr said:
Lol at first I thought this was a serious rant and you were gunna ream the clerk out but upon finishing i realized that the only shock you got at the store was a shock of common sense and good advice.

Glad to hear their is someone there who can give it straight, last time i was there the experience was less than stellar.
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just about to same the same thing:cheers:
 
Cool story. Common sense is a gift, take it when you can and you will realize it when you get it. Its like a ray of fvcking shining light that penetrates obscurity adn confusion.
 
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