Couldn't Sleep Last Night....New powder/primer storage..

Oh man. I'm NOT the guy you want to ask that question. The powder magazine "building code" is a pet peeve of mine. If you use steel nails, have them hanging inside the box, have a package of primers (face up) open in the box or an open can of powder....THEN, you start throwing hard metal objects into the box, hitting the nails, causing a spark......well.....believe me....It's just better than you're removed from the gene pool anyway.

Build yourself a box. Make sure it won't hold hundreds of pounds of pressure that might cause a detonation..........just in case something did happen....which it won't, but there's no end to the paranoia some people have. Write the required "explosives" on the outside to impress your non-reloader friends (military looking stencils look really cool and will get more ooooos and ahhhhhhs than magic marker) and you're good to do. :D

Natural Resources Canada are not going to send an explosives cop over to you house to inspect the fasteners in your storage box...trust me on this. They have much better things to do than go snooping around a reloaders tiny stash of stuff. Unless you're doing something to attract attention to yourself (shooting at cars, robbing banks, dealing drugs...whatever) then you'll never have a visit from the police. 99.999999999999999999999% of the cops out there wouldn't know what they were looking at anyway, much less that you didn't use brass fasteners when you built the box. The CFO is required to make an appointment before inspecting your firearms storage, and I'm pretty sure every pound of powder and every primer would magically find it's way into my neighbours garage before the appointment time.

Don't get all hyped up about the whole storage box/powder magazine thing. Unless you have kids with busy fingers who like to play with fire, where's the problem ? Just don't pile a few thousand primers and 10 lbs of powder on top of your furnace to keep it dry (see the part about the gene pool again) :D

My stuff is on a shelving unit, away from heat, it's cool, and it's dry. The cans aren't contained so they'll just burn (as designed) if there ever was a fire. The room it's all in is locked, and my kids show no interest in my "man cave" anyway since it's completely dark in there unless I'm in there, and there's usually sawdust all over the place.......and putting everything in a plywood box would help with safety.....how ??? Anybody who thinks I'd build a box and be worried about finding "brass hardware" to put it together is sadly mistaken.

I agree. I built it just as much for fun as for the "rules". Plus, sometimes people can be full of spite. I don't want to have someone over for dinner, cook them a bad meal, and they decided to cause trouble for me. Gotta dot my i's and cross my t's. :p
 
Yes, if you read the Explosives Act, maximum of 12kg for powder; 2kg max out of storage container during reloading process.
There is no limit on primers, they just have to be of 'reasonable' amount.
Both - powder and primers have to be in separate containers.
 
Probably the most likely thing to cause trouble in the "Act" is the fact that you must paint explosives on a box that actually contains flamable solids. The Maytag or gas man may think you actually have explosives in your home, and maybe you shouldn't...
 
And don't forget that if you do not meet the storage regulations as far as the container and quantity of powder is concerned your household fire insurer may take a dim view if you ever need to make a claim. :)
 
........... 99.999999999999999999999% of the cops out there wouldn't know what they were looking at anyway, much less that you didn't use brass fasteners when you built the box. :rolleyes: The CFO is required to make an appointment before inspecting your firearms storage, and I'm pretty sure every pound of powder and every primer would magically find it's way into my neighbours garage before the appointment time............



Hey joe-nwt !!!!! We would like to hear your opinion on this subject !!! :D


I'm usually pretty shy about such matters but since you asked.....:p

99.99999999999999999999% of cops out there will know EXACTLY what they are looking at if you label the box "explosives".

Since there has never been an incident with regards to the safety of powder and primers, I fail to see how a stupid plywood box will make it safer and less incidents?:confused:

And once the powder and primers are CONTAINED in a brass case with a lead plug, suddenly they don't have to be in a plywood box anymore?:confused:

The containers supplied by the manufacturers are designed to release any pressure before it can reach dangerous levels, why implement another level of containment, no matter how small?:confused:

How come I can put a metal spout from a gas pump into the metal neck on my car's gas tank, but I can't use a metal hinge on "the box"?:confused::rolleyes:

IMO, since they got slammed by the shooting community when they tried to re-write the act with regards to reloading, they had to put something out there to let us know they were NOT to be trifled with.:rolleyes: Hence the plywood box. And those are the rules.

So, comply away if you feel the urge.;)
 
Both - powder and primers have to be in separate containers.

I have met that requirement as there are two pieces of 3/4" plywood in the center of the box and two lids. Basically simulates two separate boxes sitting side by side.

I don't think you were inferring that I didn't meet the requirement but just in case. :p
 
I hate to be a party pooper and the box DOES look nicely made. But a lot of so called brass hardware is actually steel with a brass plating. Particularly screws. You may want to test your "brass" hardware with a magnet.
 
What a crock this is...

I just tried a magnet on an IMR 4895 can...IT IS STEEL!! The damn thing just about jumped onto the magnet.

So the company that has been making powder for what, 150 years, uses steel and we have to have brass hinges & hardware?

If I didn't know any better I would have little respect for the guys that put this law together.
 
Not to keep kicking a dead horse but..... brass furniture/ hardware only, okay.

What about the Lock? Does it have to be non sparking too?

I don't think so but I bought solid brass locks anyway. Not sure if the hoop on the lock is brass as well because it was a different colour. Will try a magnet.
 
I hate to be a party pooper and the box DOES look nicely made. But a lot of so called brass hardware is actually steel with a brass plating. Particularly screws. You may want to test your "brass" hardware with a magnet.


I am good. Made sure hinges were not plated and bought brass screws separately.
 
What a crock this is...

I just tried a magnet on an IMR 4895 can...IT IS STEEL!! The damn thing just about jumped onto the magnet.

So the company that has been making powder for what, 150 years, uses steel and we have to have brass hinges & hardware?

If I didn't know any better I would have little respect for the guys that put this law together.

LOL...Horrible!
 
^^^^^^^^ Now, now. A few rules never hurt anyone. And don't let facts cloud your desire to comply. Give in to the dark side........you know you want to.;):D
 
What a crock this is...

I just tried a magnet on an IMR 4895 can...IT IS STEEL!! The damn thing just about jumped onto the magnet.

So the company that has been making powder for what, 150 years, uses steel and we have to have brass hinges & hardware?

If I didn't know any better I would have little respect for the guys that put this law together.

Well, that must be why they want you to build your box with brass hardware. God forbid, your steel cans could strike a steel fastener in the box and make a spark !!!! Of course, you know what this means. When the can is out of the box, you have to remove all non-brass metal from the room. It then makes perfect sense that you will need an all brass powder dispenser along with an all brass press and brass dies. If you're using a scale near the powder can, that will have to be brass too !!!! :eek: Heaven forbid your bench has a steel top, or any steel screws or nails in it !!!! Sorry...you guys are going to have to remove all the fasteners from your benches and replace them with solid brass screws or tacks. You'd better hurry !!! I think I see the NR Can cops coming down the street !!!!! :runaway::eek::runaway::eek:
 
There is no limit on primers, they just have to be of 'reasonable' amount.
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Yes, and who gets to decide what "reasonable" is? I bet any jury in the land would find more then 500 "an arsenal":jerkit: once the lawyer got finished talking it up. Never mind the 5000+ most of us have.
 
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