Couple of Rifes from The Rising Sun Era

Road King

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Unearth these two historical rifles the other day. Both were pretty dirty and really had not seen the light of day or even the light of a 40 watt light bulb for 40 years. After a little cleaning and some research I thought I would share them here on this site. The top rifle is a Arisaka Type 38, series 26 manufactured at the Koishikawa plant in Tokyo in the late 30s. The second rifle is the Arisaka type 99, series 23 manufactured at the Kokura Plant around 1942. This series would not have had the mono pod but has the correct barrel band for this attachment. It also has the famous but ineffective anti air craft rear sight.
The rare characteristic about these guns is the mum has not been defaced or removed as with almost all these survived rifles. At the end of WWII the chrysanthemum (mum) markings on the receivers of surrendered Japanese rifles were removed. The sixteen petal mum is the imperial symbol of the Japanese Emperor. The chrysanthemum was at least partially ground off on rifles which were surrendered after the war, apparently as a face-saving gesture. Rifles captured in the field, however, normally have the chrysanthemum symbol intact.


Top rifle is the Type 38 and bottom rifle Type 99
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That is an awesome find! Congrats.

Most our members here who collect Japanese rifles with mums intact have started buying from the U.S. and importing them. They don't come out of the woodwork here very often.

-Steve
 
Familiar looking rifles.....

Type 38 was made at Kokura Arsenal in Kokura, not Koishikawa Arsenal in Tokyo...... it moved in 1923.

Have these rifles posted on another site, which is where you seen them. I was told on that site that , quote "They were both made at Kokura Tokyo although it would have been called Koishikawa when the Type 38 was built." Kokura Arsenal 1935-1945 and Koishikawa Arsenal (Tokyo) 1870-1935 So if it was built in late '30s you would be right.
 
Really don't fit in my collection now but with these, they are a collection already or a good start. :)

If it doesn't fit, you must acquit...who could disagree with Johnny Cochran?

They would look really great in my collection! Would fit like a glove I would say.
 
Japanese had THREE different 7.7mm rounds in WW2.

RIMMED version was identical to our .303, used in Lewises, etc, of which they got large numbers cheaply because they were our great and good buddies in the Great War.

SEMI-RIMMED was the machine-gun version and there was a

RIMLESS version as well for infantry rifles. Brass for this one can be made from .30-06 and be close, although Trade-Ex has the right stuff.

The 7.7 group performed identically to the .303, used the same components except for the brass.

Must have been a WONDERFUL headache for the Supply Officer!
 
huh. I always heard the hype that the Japanese round in ww2 was designed to maim, not kill, with the purpose that if you hit one guy, it takes 3 more to care for him, and if you kill him, thats all you get. one guy.

this round definately doesn't sound weak at all.
 
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