Sorry for jumping in. Just curious were in truro theres cas? Thanks
Cowboy Action?
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Go to http://www.pdlabel.ca/nscas/
That will put you in touch with the right people.
Good Luck.
Frenchy
That will put you in touch with the right people.
Good Luck.
Frenchy
I was recently complaining to another shooter about how I hate loading my lever action, especially when it is cold outside because it is awfully hard on my thumb. He told me that it is common for shooters to use a piece of wood dowel to push the rounds through the gate into the tubular magazine. Is this common for cowboy action shooters?
"I was recently complaining to another shooter about how I hate loading my lever action, especially when it is cold outside because it is awfully hard on my thumb. He told me that it is common for shooters to use a piece of wood dowel to push the rounds through the gate into the tubular magazine. Is this common for cowboy action shooters? "
Yes it is!
Personnally I use the next cartridge to push the 1st one in.
With the gun laying flat loading gate up, I push one round in about half way holding it in place with my left hand then I take the second round in my right and repeat the process, works well.
Frenchy
Yes it is!
Personnally I use the next cartridge to push the 1st one in.
With the gun laying flat loading gate up, I push one round in about half way holding it in place with my left hand then I take the second round in my right and repeat the process, works well.
Frenchy
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fingers284
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Alberta Cowboy Ranges
Two other things you can do to remedy your problem: remove the loading gate from the rifle and grind(with a Dremel) about 25% (kind of give it a hour-glass figure) off the width of the gate spring. Do it slowly so as to not heat the remaining spring up much.
The second thing is remove the magazine cap from the end of the mag tube, when the spring is extended out of the tube, cut off about 1/2 the extra spring that is out of the tube. push spring back in tube and replace tube cap.
Your thumb will thank you every time you shoot that gun.
I've only ever seen 1 gentleman carry a piece of dowel, a large number of Cowboy shooters have a small screwdriver available.
fingers284
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Alberta Cowboy Ranges
Might have been me. I once owned a Colt Lightning pump action made by AWA. It was in .38 and the damn loading port was so narrow & small my thumb couldn't push the shell in far enough for the gate to close. I machined a piece of aluminum to fit the loops on my gun belt. I still carry it all the time even tho I sold the gun long ago, use it to hang my shell carrier.
So many things I want to try and get into...
Cowboy, Idpa..
Tried three gun, but the semi auto just didnt do it for me,
Love me some lever guns, and picked up my first 22 revolver, had a 357 ordered the day after I shot it.
Bought them used, and sadly they are both SA or DA, so can't be used, but gosh, the links in this thread...
Well lets just say my years of watching the Duke as a kid might be coming back lol
Cowboy, Idpa..
Tried three gun, but the semi auto just didnt do it for me,
Love me some lever guns, and picked up my first 22 revolver, had a 357 ordered the day after I shot it.
Bought them used, and sadly they are both SA or DA, so can't be used, but gosh, the links in this thread...
Well lets just say my years of watching the Duke as a kid might be coming back lol
fingers284
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Alberta Cowboy Ranges
I was put off by the costume too, then I realized on an average day all I need is a hat and gunbelt and I would be dressed just about like Yul Brenner in the Magnificent Seven. So maybe it's not even a costume. Dressed up as Tom Mix maybe not as cool. It was reruns of Gunsmoke when I was a kid made me think a Colt .45 is way cooler than a 9mm. And now you know exactly how old I am too.
fingers284
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Alberta Cowboy Ranges
Costuming , at most clubs is a very subjective thing , most are quite happy with the bare minimum of a pair of hightop boots of some kind and a hat with an all "around the head" brim. It is entirely up to the shooter as to how much you want to cowboy up for a shoot.
Most shooters start out with the bare minimum and after acquiring all the gun & leather required, they start to increase their attire as they can by either home made or thrift store purchases.
The best scenario possible for costuming is to have a wife that loves the sport and is an accomplished seamstress. Believe it or not (and this comes from a guy that had absolutely no interest in the costuming in the beginning), the costuming can become as much fun as the shooting.
Most shooters start out with the bare minimum and after acquiring all the gun & leather required, they start to increase their attire as they can by either home made or thrift store purchases.
The best scenario possible for costuming is to have a wife that loves the sport and is an accomplished seamstress. Believe it or not (and this comes from a guy that had absolutely no interest in the costuming in the beginning), the costuming can become as much fun as the shooting.
With me I love the costuming, but I waited after I had all the hardware fist. I already had a hat I had gotten on a trip to Calgary and I already wear cowboy boots. I started adding to it over time, every birthdays, fathers days etc...
Now, I'm gearing up for Classic Cowboy. I ordered a new rig and will be buying a pair of pistols in .45 colt as well as a rifle also in .45colt, my shotgun is already a hammered SxS 12ga. I'll hang on to my .38spl gear for my grand kids hopefully they'll get into it. I got em a pair of Daisy BB guns for christmas. :0)
Don't let the dressing up put you off, just get it done at your own pace.
Frenchy
I love the costuming part also, not only is it fun but it gives me a excuse to buy more hardware. Every new persona requires the appropriate hardware, don't you know? Cowboy, Gambler, Lawman and Cavalry all used different weapons. "That's my story and I'm sticking to it". Of course it all depends on which era you want to represent, better add a few cap and ball revolvers to the mix and start loading black powder in the rifle and shotgun. "It allows me to compete in another class". Speaking of which there is "Wild Bunch", better get a 1911.Worried your wife will kill you? Do what I did, get her involved too! Damn, now she wants her own guns.
All kidding aside ,you will not meet a friendlier bunch of people than in CAS. There are no posers because we are all posers, well 98% of us are. The first match I competed in although I have handled firearms all my adult life I was nervous as hell. I was surprised at the amount of encouragement and tips that every one gave me. First stage I was so jittery I was almost shaking and wound up jamming my rifle. Just put it down and move to the shotgun a old timer told me. The twenty second penalty I took for misses was less that what it would of cost me to clear that jam. After that stage a few of the people took me aside and told me, "Don't try to work the action that fast, this is the best way to tie your holster down and here put this cornstarch on your shotgun shells and they wont stick in your holder so bad. Each stage went better and in the end I wound up 11th in my class thanks to a lot of the people there. Great bunch of shooters and now I am hooked.
All kidding aside ,you will not meet a friendlier bunch of people than in CAS. There are no posers because we are all posers, well 98% of us are. The first match I competed in although I have handled firearms all my adult life I was nervous as hell. I was surprised at the amount of encouragement and tips that every one gave me. First stage I was so jittery I was almost shaking and wound up jamming my rifle. Just put it down and move to the shotgun a old timer told me. The twenty second penalty I took for misses was less that what it would of cost me to clear that jam. After that stage a few of the people took me aside and told me, "Don't try to work the action that fast, this is the best way to tie your holster down and here put this cornstarch on your shotgun shells and they wont stick in your holder so bad. Each stage went better and in the end I wound up 11th in my class thanks to a lot of the people there. Great bunch of shooters and now I am hooked.
My wife and I have an agreement, I take care of the guns and ammo, she takes care of the costuming. We shoot everything from non affiliated club matches to state championships, to regional, to SASS Nationals. Costuming isn't really enforced at non SASS affiliated clubs but when you play with the big dogs in a SASS affiliated state match, or higher, I have seen people "SDQ'd" from 2 stages and told they would be "MDQ'd" if they shot a 3rd stage without either being dressed appropriately for the Category they chose to shoot in , or changed categories.
fingers284
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Alberta Cowboy Ranges
That's cuz we don't want to be out there by ourselves... a little foolish to pack & set up a ton or so of steel out just for one or two shooters
Actually, it's because that's "The Cowboy Way"
I haven't hit one posse that won't go out of their way to help out someone.
Sporting Lad
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- Vancouver Island
My STOGIE is stiff! :0 |
I've got a new Stoeger coach gun that does not want to extract spent shells. I've read up on "slicking up your Stoeger" on YT--there are at least a half dozen recommended fixes that may need to be done before it's CAS-ready.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421782837&x-yt-cl=84359240&v=FrtBEi1csOA
On mine, everything works fine in the shop:
- It drops open when the chambers are empty and the hammers are cocked
- If the hammers are fwd, it's still not very hard to break open, and snap-caps, etc are extracted fine.
- But out at the range it will only break open half-way before it stops, so the spent shells will not extract until I use a lot of force.
Now I can do all the recommended polishing of lugs and so on, and I probably will when I get the time, but I'm wondering if simply polishing/honing
the chambers might solve the issue of this 'failure to extract'. I expect the problem lies in not having enough tolerance built in to the chambers at the factory, so once the shells are fired, their bases expand such that they're stuck in there pretty tight.
I've used Winnie (low brass) and Federal (high brass) with the same result. I've only fired six shells, but every one only moved out ~1/8" before they got stuck.
I don't have the 'official' (pricey!) flex-honing tool. I do have a wire bristle 12 bore brush in the chuck of my power drill, and some emery cloth wrapped around a shell casing that I'm planning to try. So how much material will I need to remove to fix the problem? I don't want to remove too much.
Is there some way I can do this without going out to the range time and again for trial and error test firings?
(RANT):
What a PITA! This thing is as bad as my Norinco M-14--a DIY "project gun"! Would it be so hard for arms manufacturers to deliver firearms that will work 'out of the box' without first having to be rebuilt by a gunsmith?
I don't expect to have to rebuild my brand new truck before I can drive it, or my computer. ("OK, sir, here is your new digital camera, but you're going to have to do a bit of tinkering before it will actually work properly...") WTF?
I've got a new Stoeger coach gun that does not want to extract spent shells. I've read up on "slicking up your Stoeger" on YT--there are at least a half dozen recommended fixes that may need to be done before it's CAS-ready.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421782837&x-yt-cl=84359240&v=FrtBEi1csOA
On mine, everything works fine in the shop:
- It drops open when the chambers are empty and the hammers are cocked
- If the hammers are fwd, it's still not very hard to break open, and snap-caps, etc are extracted fine.
- But out at the range it will only break open half-way before it stops, so the spent shells will not extract until I use a lot of force.
Now I can do all the recommended polishing of lugs and so on, and I probably will when I get the time, but I'm wondering if simply polishing/honing
the chambers might solve the issue of this 'failure to extract'. I expect the problem lies in not having enough tolerance built in to the chambers at the factory, so once the shells are fired, their bases expand such that they're stuck in there pretty tight.
I've used Winnie (low brass) and Federal (high brass) with the same result. I've only fired six shells, but every one only moved out ~1/8" before they got stuck.
I don't have the 'official' (pricey!) flex-honing tool. I do have a wire bristle 12 bore brush in the chuck of my power drill, and some emery cloth wrapped around a shell casing that I'm planning to try. So how much material will I need to remove to fix the problem? I don't want to remove too much.
Is there some way I can do this without going out to the range time and again for trial and error test firings?
(RANT):
What a PITA! This thing is as bad as my Norinco M-14--a DIY "project gun"! Would it be so hard for arms manufacturers to deliver firearms that will work 'out of the box' without first having to be rebuilt by a gunsmith?
I don't expect to have to rebuild my brand new truck before I can drive it, or my computer. ("OK, sir, here is your new digital camera, but you're going to have to do a bit of tinkering before it will actually work properly...") WTF?fingers284
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Alberta Cowboy Ranges
Chamber honing & polishing isn't a job ( to do it well) for a hand drill... they will remove metal ( but sometimes not an equal amount from total circumference of the chamber, meaning..."you are left with an oblong chamber") to loosen case head binding if enough time is spent at it. but won't "polish". you need very high speed (Dremel type speed) and use oil on your very fine (like 1200 grit, hard to find unless you have a specialized metal finishing store close by) grinding tool to end up with a polished finish.
Yep, mine and Victoria's are attached to our loading blocks. They are actually bear tooths
