Coyote bounty ineffective, Green party says

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Coyote bounty ineffective, Green party says
Gov't defends money spent on cull program
http://www.thestarphoenix.com/techn...effective+Green+party+says/2589260/story.html

The $360,000 of public money spent so far on Saskatchewan's coyote bounty, could be put to better use, says the leader of the provincial Green party. :jerkit:

Larissa Shasko criticized the $20 per animal bounty as ineffective, saying coyotes adapt to reduced numbers by having larger litters of pups. The government could instead put more money into prevention measures such as programs that subsidize the cost of farm fencing or guard dogs, or more targeted programs, said Shasko.
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"I think what's really important at this point is to call for alternative solutions," Shasko said Friday, the same day the provincial government issued a news release saying the coyote bounty is helping to address livestock predation. "It's a lot of money and I'm wondering if this money could be spent in a better way. I think it can," Shasko said.
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But Agriculture Minister Bob Bjornerud said the province has tried other measures to control coyotes that are killing livestock. Under a program administered by the sheep development board, producers with coyote problems can call for assistance and a skilled trapper will be dispatched to help.

The budget of that program was recently boosted to $400,000, but it hasn't been enough, Bjornerud said.

"It just wasn't doing what producers wanted out there and that's why we had to go one step further," he said.

Nearly 18,000 coyotes have been killed since the start of the bounty pilot project in November, which runs until the end of March.

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The number killed is still less than the average 21,000 coyotes that Saskatchewan Environment says are hunted or trapped for their fur in a typical year, when no bounty is paid by government. However, the number of coyotes killed in Saskatchewan in 2008-09 dipped below 18,000 in part to low prices for pelts.

Bjornerud said he would like the number this year to hit at least 30,000 by the end of March. Only after the program concludes will the province be able to evaluate its impact and whether it will be renewed, he said.
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Yotes and wolves ain't stupid. They don't hang around where they're getting killed.

Yes, they may have more pups - somewhere else. They become much much more leery of humans and their farms when everyone they see shoots at them.
 
even if the coyotes have bigger litter's, it just means we need to keep the bounties in place and keep shooting them for another year or two:)
 
And there's only so 'big' the litter can get. Coyotes may go from 4-5 pups to six or so, but it's not like they can 'double up'.

Wolves are a little different because the alpha pair may allow other pairs to mate, but coyotes don't do that.
 
Exactly.

Kill the ones daring enough to get close to homes. Those that are naturally scared of humans will be the ones to reproduce.
 
I am confused, help me out.

Is there any proof their litters get bigger? How does the reproductive system of the coyotes know numbers are down?

Would the size of litters not be related to the food supply of the mother,and brazen predatating coyotes would have a better food supply?

What am I missing.
 
I don't know much about coyotes, but am I correct in thinking that, from a 'yote's perspective:
1: Fencing=minor inconvenience
2: Guard Dog= another minor inconvenience plus a good feed for the pack

?????
 
bck1968 said:
I don't know much about coyotes, but am I correct in thinking that, from a 'yote's perspective:
1: Fencing=minor inconvenience
2: Guard Dog= another minor inconvenience plus a good feed for the pack

?????
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1: Fences are more of an inconvenience for the hunter. The Yote just blast through it while we have to open the gates.

2: Depending on the guard dog. Great Pyrenees are great at protecting the herd but get nasty towards people sometimes. Dogs like Irish Wolfhounds will kill coyotes but will also kill deer, yearling's and other farm animals.

I don't know if there is one good solution but I know the green party does not have it.
 
riden said:
I am confused, help me out.

Is there any proof their litters get bigger? How does the reproductive system of the coyotes know numbers are down?

Would the size of litters not be related to the food supply of the mother,and brazen predatating coyotes would have a better food supply?

What am I missing.
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That's hogwash. More than likely it's stated that way to make it sound like nothing can be done so leave them alone. By saying they adapt, I suspect it's because with less coyotes out there, it is easier to feed all the young, rather than have the weakest perish. It's what every species does, less demand for food, increased survival.

Greenies word it this way to make it sound more ominous and pointless. I've noted that on other species like wolves when they speak about the problems in the northern states. And yes, Canadian wolves are meaner. And bigger. And our southern neighbors have the same problems.... just bigger species...

I'd say lets go back to stricnine, but then they would be reduced before I got back to shoot them.... :evil:
 
cdnredneck_t3 said:
I don't know if there is one good solution but I know the green party does not have it.
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One good solution:
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Foxer said:
Yotes and wolves ain't stupid. They don't hang around where they're getting killed. Yes, they may have more pups - somewhere else. They become much much more leery of humans and their farms when everyone they see shoots at them.
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There's a little more to it than that. Coyotes are remarkably resilient to hunting pressure. You might clean them out of a small area temporarily, but slowly and surely the coyotes from neighboring territories will move in to take up the vacated spaces. Less predators = more prey = more predators. Its amazing how many coyotes a busy and successful predator hunter can remove in a single area season after season.

I'm not arguing against a bounty, as sometimes it is a necessary and reasonable solution to an immediate predator problem. But it is a temporary solution. If it weren't, you wouldn't see a repeated need for bounties and other control methods.
 
RR said:
Why do Green Parties always appear so frikken stupid and then wonder why nobody takes them seriously.
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Im actually going to thank her,I wasnt going to go out today but the green party just gave me the motivation,and thanks to her more bounty money will be paid out.
 
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