coyote hunting in southwestern ontario

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Outside of predator masters, does anyone know of a forum or site that i can use to access for hunting permission in Norfolk county. I'm also looking for coyote loads for a .270 Winchester. I have some 95 grain sierra Varminters to get reloaded. Anything else out there to use ? Possibly a polymer tip for quick expansion. I have a .22 250 and a .243 win. already but i'm considering a LH 783 that i can also use for big game and i don't want another .270 around if it can't be more versatile and accurate than my pump. Maybe someone could suggest a spot in this forum that people are currently using regarding coyote hunting. I see some chatting on the topic but not so much in my area. We are trying gain more access and knocking on doors doesn't always work . This is addressed to the farmers who may also hunt but may need a hand . Feel free to contact me and maybe we can help. Thanks magnum 3.
 
Hey magnum~I hunt a couple of hours north of there on several farms, and have gotten permission using the simple "knocking on doors" routine. It's a little humbling of course, but I've had great luck using a common-sense approach. I never bother farmers on Sundays (though most I know work every day), I only show-up and approach land owners on my own, I'm never in camo when I do it, or, have the intention of hunting on the same day I approach them and ask permission. I always mention (by name) the other farmers/landowners who have put there trust in me, where their farms are approximately, what kind of farming they do, etc. The only person who ever declined the request apologized saying their son (and his friends) already hunt their land~which is completely understandable.

Should go without saying, but some of the farms I hunt are way out there and as a result, I may be the first guy to pull-up their driveway in some time. Always be prepared to give a little time to socializing, and take note of the type of things they like if they pop-up in conversation. I always visit the farmers in the off-season near Christmas with a gift to show my appreciation. Without making this too much of a "feel good" sort of post, what started as an effort to find land to hunt on has resulted in my now having some great people to call friends. No shortage of fresh eggs either!

As for the the right rounds to use~I use a .223 with 53gr. V-Max hand loads...so no help to you!

Good luck!
 
Boots to the ground and knocking on doors. My experience over 40 years is land owners like to see you. I have been granted access from landowners when others said it was impossible. Remember to offer to help with anything you can and maybe drop off a case of beer or some fine wine for the wife.
 
I understand all that and use the same approach you do. You might even get permission for an entire concession accept for the one or two you need. And we respect their wishes when we are turned down just the same. What i really was looking for are farmers or land owners who may or may not hunt but are looking for other responsible hunters to take care of a coyote problem or assist with their problem if it is to big for them to handle in the Norfolk county area. I fully understand the intimidation factor also when a group of camo clad , gun toting hunters show up in 2 or more trucks unannounced . Definitely better to phone ahead. I grew up on a farm surrounded by farmers (not in prime coyote land) and even they have changed their ways of thinking after dealing with trespassers , dirt bikes , snowmobiles and general vandalism . Damage to land , crops , planted trees, machinery,buildings, signs and poaching are all reasons why they have to refuse everyone . One of the biggest reasons is actually LIABILITY if something happens to anyone who is on their property. And you would be amazed at how many farmers that we have permission for are still startled when we show up a day or 2 after you reconfirm your deer hunting permission for the controlled hunt , even if you tell them which days you're hunting on their land. Sooooo.... if there are any farmers who need help and read these forums in the Norfolk , Haldimond area give a shout back . Oh ... Thanks for the .223 info . I'll keep it in mind. I don't own one at present.
 
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The best approach is over time and through word of mouth. Get wrapping on doors in respectable clothing (e.g. never approach a new property owner clad in camo and ready to hunt). Be honest and frank with your intentions and you may be surprised by responses. Be sure to circle in with owners every now and again to let them know what you've seen or even what you haven't - I give my closest contacts an annual gift by way of a deer sausage or roast or even a holiday card.

I have a 22-250 and .243 and .270 - you don't need anything special out of the .270 dedicated to coyote hunting. If I intend to hunt some wide open agricultural fields on a blustery day, I'll pack the .270 (140 gr AB) given a potential long range shot be a possibility. Otherwise, a 22-250 or .243 loaded anywhere in their range will do just fine out to the farthest ranges that most are comfortable attempting. My longest kill shot on a varmint is 450 yds, have missed one coyote at 325 yds, all others being < 250 yds and quick dirt naps with 50, 65 and 85 gr bullets.
 
I just found some 110 gr. v max i'm just itching to try this winter threw the .270 . Keep in touch guys and i'll let you know how it turned out at the range. Just waiting for a follow up on that 783 lefty that wholesale sports says their getting in. In the mean time i'm getting a few loaded for the pump . Thanks guys.
 
It depends on how you hunt too, if you use dogs etc. I'm 2 minutes on the Elgin side of hwy #55, dad has got land on the Norfolk side, and I can see why land owners wouldn't want 5-10 vehicles parked on the side of the road beside their land just waiting for a yote to walk out. I can also see why they wouldn't want the dogs running all over their land.
 
I have all the coyotes tamed here. No need to shoot them, just learn the commands. For example, come is a high pitched cry, similar to a babies. Stay is more subtle, a simple inward twitch of my pointer finger. Working great so far.
 
magnum 3 said:
I just found some 110 gr. v max i'm just itching to try this winter threw the .270 . Keep in touch guys and i'll let you know how it turned out at the range. Just waiting for a follow up on that 783 lefty that wholesale sports says their getting in. In the mean time i'm getting a few loaded for the pump . Thanks guys.
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The 110gr V-max shoots very well in my Savage 270 as do the Sierra 90gr HPs, they are as long as the 110 V-max. Here's a thread I started a few years ago.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/681565-New-Savage-111-FLNS-in-270-Win
 
we have all the farms locked up in Norfolk and oxford county for hunting .so no scents asking around here .haha .if you have a 22 250 and a 243 why would you be wanting to us a 270 .as thy are way louder and i have seen some bad reactions from farmers when guys us 270 and bigger guns .we run dogs and most farmers around here are happy to see us and are dogs Dutch
 
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we have all the farms locked up in Norfolk and oxford county for hunting .so no scents asking around here .haha .if you have a 22 250 and a 243 why would you be wanting to us a 270 .as thy are way louder and i have seen some bad reactions from farmers when guys us 270 and bigger guns .we run dogs and most farmers around here are happy to see us and are dogs Dutch
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When I'm at one farm I see you at the other.
 
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