Mount Sweetness
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You stated that you "don't want to tear them apart", then you stated "hide retention is a non issue"..? what?
Coyote rifle
- Thread starter Albertarookie
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I started thinking more about it and the "hide retention is a non issue" stems from more of my livestock preservation roots. In a more reflective moment I realized I can use a hobby to make a profit hmmm. I'm going to talk to my local CO to see what I need to sell the hides. I was humbled by a few of the comments made by others and rethought my cavalier attitude. Legal does not always equate to ethical, and although they will all be harvested legally I realized that it is not ethical to waste the hides.
Don't let someone else's version of ethical deter you from killing every single yodel dog you see ! I bury em pelt on. Way better than burying what is left of a calf.
I don't skin rats or groundhogs either.
If you can make a nickle off them that's great, just depends how much your time is worth.
Depends on range and placement. Hit bones and it gets messy. Broadside lower 1/3 chest dead before they hit the ground not much of a mess. To the hide anyway. Skin them and you will see a mess inside. The heaviest I've used on a song dog was 117 gr interlock. Shot one broadside its buddy stood there looking at it on the ground. I shot him in th chest front on. He didn't twich. Both were kinda mangy so I didn't look to close but the broadside one no damage the chest shot one the bullet exited the rear rump. Not pretty
The 2506 offers a lot of punch and range shoots flat and kills well. Coyote deer black bear. I've never needed a second shot. Also crows and groundhogs vapourize. It really is quite something when a crow can be separated 42' from head to tail
I've got only a 22" barrel and use 49 grs varget. No pressure signs. I could push them faster maybe but 3 shot groups are right tight with this load so I stay with it. Cons of the 2506. The barrel gets HOT fast
Adrian J Hare
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I use the Hornady Superformance Varmint 58gn VMax (red Box) rating of 3925 fps
Muffin Man
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- Landmark Manitoba
My Coyote rifle is a savage model 25 varminter in .223 cal. I load my own Seirra game king 55 grain bthp. I have never had a coyote walk. Furthest shot on a calm day was close to 400 yards. I went with .223 because I could practice lots for cheap. And reloading even cheaper and far more accurate. My loads are not hot at all. .223 is my prefrance, and I don't regret it at all.
I like the CZ mini mauser. I have one in 223 varmint laminate. I haven't regreted buying that gun one little bit... The scope on it is a different story... I HATE that tasco scope. I shot a yote with a hope and a prayer on saturday. All I could see was a kinda coyote shaped blur through the white haze in my scope at 175 yards... I will not be using that scope much longer. I have a zeiss conquest on the way. If you want a yote rig, the 75 grain hornady amax kills them really dead even with a graze as I found out the other day. So, you'll need a 1:9 twist gun or faster.
Also, don't skimp on glass. Get a scope that will gather the most light. In my experience, yotes are most active around dusk, and if you skimp on glass, you have no shot. If you have cattle, one calf lost will cost more than really good glass....
Also, don't skimp on glass. Get a scope that will gather the most light. In my experience, yotes are most active around dusk, and if you skimp on glass, you have no shot. If you have cattle, one calf lost will cost more than really good glass....
I hear ya on the glass. I was in the big city on the weekend and checked out the Remington 700 vtr. It fit nice but I'm having trouble with the integral muzzle brake for a varmint caliber rifle. I just don't see the justification with the negligable recoil, can someone explain this to me please.
After I saw what a .223 did to poor tiny ol 'yotes, I decided that the 22 hornet was plenty, and hell the .22 WMR would do a clean job with a decent placed shot.
Headshot with .223 will explode its eyes out of its head. Body shot with .223 will create a small bowling ball cavity inside the yote, and leave a 5" exit wound.
Headshot with .223 will explode its eyes out of its head. Body shot with .223 will create a small bowling ball cavity inside the yote, and leave a 5" exit wound.
No purpose that I can see unless you want to load the case to the max with red dot, but if you do that, I think extraction might be an issue as well.... Get a CZ varmint.
Depends on the type of the bullet used. I haven't had exits on full grown yote dogs with a 50gr varmint grenade out of a 22-250... There is organ soup left though... The 75 gr hornady amax did a good deal of damage the the first one I shot with that load.... but I'm not collecting pelts either... I want them deader than dead...
this one got an owwie from a 75 gr amax...
Untitled by wolverine00089, on Flickr
Untitled by wolverine00089, on Flickr
I'll echo Adrians' recommendation and add another vote for the .243win. Although, I do have a 22-250 & .204R as dedicated Coyote rigs also.
The .243Win was my first purchase, based on a "double-duty" rig. There's so many 6mm bullet choices, chances are you'll find a load your rig likes & which is humane to your standards. The BC of the 6mm/.243 also bucks the wind better then the .224 or .20cal making it a better choice for longer shots in the wind if required.
Any of the afore-mention cals will dispatch a song dog effectively, some better then others under certain circumstances (distance, wind etc). Ask yourself these questions, then decide from there.
1 - terrain hunted
2 - typical distance
3 - typical wind velocity
4 - hide damage (high or low priority?)
As an aside you can always check out the predatorhuntcanada forum for additional info & rig #### ( CV32, Adrian, myself and few others here are members there).
Good luck & welcome to the 'yote addiction, soon you'll have 2 or 3 rigs
The .243Win was my first purchase, based on a "double-duty" rig. There's so many 6mm bullet choices, chances are you'll find a load your rig likes & which is humane to your standards. The BC of the 6mm/.243 also bucks the wind better then the .224 or .20cal making it a better choice for longer shots in the wind if required.
Any of the afore-mention cals will dispatch a song dog effectively, some better then others under certain circumstances (distance, wind etc). Ask yourself these questions, then decide from there.
1 - terrain hunted
2 - typical distance
3 - typical wind velocity
4 - hide damage (high or low priority?)
As an aside you can always check out the predatorhuntcanada forum for additional info & rig #### ( CV32, Adrian, myself and few others here are members there).
Good luck & welcome to the 'yote addiction, soon you'll have 2 or 3 rigs
the spank
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I am using a 22.250 with 50 & 55 grain factory Hornady V Max ammo with good results. They are 100% fur friendly. Made to shatter on impact and send shrapnel around inside. No exit wounds to date and an entry hole about the size of my thumbnail.
