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i just took up coyote hunting, and i havent seen one at all. i usually go during the day and see lots of tracks(today i found a half eaten rabbit). i need some tips. i have a rabbit in distress call but i dont no, if im using the right sounds. when is the best time to hunt? morning ,before dark, afternoon. should i set up on field edges or where? should i use bait and if yes what type of bait? is it imposible to see one in warm weather?



p.s. ive never had anybody to show me this stuff so im totally lost.

thanx
 
Your on the right track. When is the best time to call? Heck anytime, but I have had the best luck during late afternoon (I am too lazy to get my butt outta bed in the morning!), 3-5 o'clock is the best for me. I set up on the edge of a open field, blow the call quite for 30 seconds to a minute, wait a couple minutes, blow on it again, gettting progressivly louder for 1/2 hour or so. Also it is the coyotes mateing season too, so it may be better to do a few howls too. If nothing comes in, dont sweat it it took me approx. 2 years before I called anything in, so you have to be persistant! and dont give up!
 
Get some doe urine (from the sports shop). Take an old sock, black or white, and stuff it with newspaper. Tape it to a stick and drive the stick in to the ground about 80yds from where you hide. Spray some doe urine on the sock.

Go to your hiding place and use the distress call. If magpies and crows show up, that's great. If you have any feathers or small strands of string to hang off the sock, all the better.

I trapped and shot lots of coyotes and they like to focus in on something. I used to use a foil pie plate above my trap. Left it hanging in a tree branch with fishin line. It spun in the wind and I got a lot of coyotes that way.
 
I just put a dead cow on the hill a couple of days ago. I saw six coyotes there yesterday morning. between me and my two cousins we have shot 70 coyotes this winter.
 
Blood trails work good, go to a butcher shop , get a container of blood and punch a hole near the bottom and trail it for a 1/2 mile or so , if you can make an x , then go back to the center and drill down with a long metal shaft with some weight to it , poor the remaining blood in the hole. Set a stand down wind of the center of the x . Next day sit and wait at the ready.
Frank
 
There seems to be alot of different factors when hunting coyotes. First you have to ask around and see if there is a good population and find some good habitat that coyotes frequent.

Hunting here in Southern Sask is alot different then hunting in Ont. Our coyote population is exploding and its very easy to call and spot coyotes as there are basically no tree's. About an hour east of me coyotes are actually comming into towns and harrasing children and killing house pets because there are so many and they're hungry.

You may be doing all things right and have coyotes come but you can't see them. Many times a coyote will work his way down wind of any prey to use his nose to check if everything is OK. A slight wiff of us stinky humans and he's gonzo :eek: Make sure that you have a good stand set up where you can see all around you or where you know the coyote will come in. I always set up on a high spot, lay low and hammer em before they see me.

Calls are very important too. Jack rabbits squeels work but if coyote has been hunted before they become weary and may not come in. I have found howls to be the absolute best way to get a coyote in. When you howl they will answer back and give up their location. You can then get pointed in that direction and be ready. I usually use a howl followed by a distressed pup and they come charging in. I would suggest getting an electronic call as they are easy to use, loud and can be placed 25-100 yards from your stand as to not give you up. I personally got rid of my e-caller and enjoy the challenge of hand calls but to each his own ;)
Camo is way over rated and scent control is a must.

Cheers!!
 
calling dogs

using the wind and being hidden well is paramount, chances are you had a yote come in, you just never seen it.
I now hunt yotes with the wind at my back or side, its more productive and often makes things happen faster. one or two minutes, max of 10. let the wind push your scent into the direction of your shooting lane. shoot the dog before it enters your scent plume. Trying to pull a dog out of the bush with the wind at his back is tough. His instinct is to circle down wind and smell out the prey, so use this weakness to your advantage
i just called a black wolf in the other day, the girlfriend never got a crack at it,but she was impressed none the less.
 
The East doesn't give up her predators easily....

As most of the replies to this post are from folks in the west, I can tell you that things are completely different here in Ontario. I have hunted predators with great success in Saskatchewan, and I have also hunted extensively for them here in the East, again with success. Here are some crucial tips that will help you here in Ontario;

1. Be an opportunist. Don't rely only on calling as its success is limited for a number of reasons. Do call, but also look for foxes and coyotes on the move at any time of day, drive past them and set up an ambush/cut-off, or call them if no other option. Or look for them curled up sleeping on a drift or in the middle of a field. Look for the top of an orange basketball or grey beachball. Glass it for fur and start a stalk. Covering country can often be more productive than calling. Be flexible.

2. Always call facing downwind but watch 360 degrees for a predator coming. In every instance I can recall, predators I have called have always headed downwind regardless of whether they started behind me or to the right or left. Face downwind and you won't miss seeing them.

3. The downwind area you are facing should have NO cover. It should be open with bushes to the left, right or both. This forces them to expose themselves to try to work downwind from the flanks. Otherwise they'll sniff you while still in cover.

4. Call and move one mile, repeat. This is systematic and you'll have better success than a bush here, a bush there at random. There is so much cover in Ontario, not as many coyotes. You gotta find them by grid approach.

5. Stay longer. At least 20 minutes, often 1/2 an hour. Usually they take longer in the East to respond. Not always though.

6. Be satisfied with even just one predator in a day in the East. Fact is, in most places in the west you'll see 20 predators on a good day and harvest 4-6, here you'll see 6 on an exceptional day and maybe shoot 2 or 3. Often you'll get skunked, most days you'll get just one. But the work you put in sure makes you proud of that one. You'll also make sure you shoot very carefully to make it count. Next one could be a while.

Good luck!

John

P.S. we have a video on DVD coming this summer that is shot half here in the east and the other half in the west. Both locales feature over two dozen hunts for fox and coyotes taken by a variety of techniques as mentioned above. You may want to get on our advance release list at the website.
 
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well not all parts of the country west of Manitoba are barren flatground open country.

many parts of BC are thickly covered with forest and hold good coyote hunting.

from what you said, it seems we aint all too far apart afterall, it hit pretty close to home ;) :D
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Great first post predatorhunter.com!!!

I've always wanted to get into 'yote hunting, But here in Quebec it's almost unheard-of... you said it best "There is so much cover in Ontario (Quebec), not as many coyotes."... I will remember your tips, and might reconsider giving it a try...


here a pic a took march 1,2006
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They need to be delt with...
 
Agreed

predatorhunters.com said:
The East doesn't give up her predators easily....

As most of the replies to this post are from folks in the west, I can tell you that things are completely different here in Ontario. I have hunted predators with great success in Saskatchewan, and I have also hunted extensively for them here in the East, again with success. Here are some crucial tips that will help you here in Ontario;

1. Be an opportunist. Don't rely only on calling as its success is limited for a number of reasons. Do call, but also look for foxes and coyotes on the move at any time of day, drive past them and set up an ambush/cut-off, or call them if no other option. Or look for them curled up sleeping on a drift or in the middle of a field. Look for the top of an orange basketball or grey beachball. Glass it for fur and start a stalk. Covering country can often be more productive than calling. Be flexible.

2. Always call facing downwind but watch 360 degrees for a predator coming. In every instance I can recall, predators I have called have always headed downwind regardless of whether they started behind me or to the right or left. Face downwind and you won't miss seeing them.

3. The downwind area you are facing should have NO cover. It should be open with bushes to the left, right or both. This forces them to expose themselves to try to work downwind from the flanks. Otherwise they'll sniff you while still in cover.

4. Call and move one mile, repeat. This is systematic and you'll have better success than a bush here, a bush there at random. There is so much cover in Ontario, not as many coyotes. You gotta find them by grid approach.

5. Stay longer. At least 20 minutes, often 1/2 an hour. Usually they take longer in the East to respond. Not always though.

6. Be satisfied with even just one predator in a day in the East. Fact is, in most places in the west you'll see 20 predators on a good day and harvest 4-6, here you'll see 6 on an exceptional day and maybe shoot 2 or 3. Often you'll get skunked, most days you'll get just one. But the work you put in sure makes you proud of that one. You'll also make sure you shoot very carefully to make it count. Next one could be a while.

Good luck!

John

P.S. we have a video on DVD coming this summer that is shot half here in the east and the other half in the west. Both locales feature over two dozen hunts for fox and coyotes taken by a variety of techniques as mentioned above. You may want to get on our advance release list at the website.
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I'll agree with you on that 1, I have hunted for 2 yrs in Ont and Pq and never called in a Yote, FoxPro and white camo and all.Caught 1 in a snare and shot a couple in the Summer in hay fields but never in winter.. Don't even say that I am probably getting busted before hand.
Meanea
 
Not too close...

One more tip I neglected to mention.

I have called in coyotes from about a mile away on a moderately breezy day and not much less on windy days. They hear the call (mouth or electronic) a long ways away. Best NOT to get to close to the area you want to call. Bush or cover targeted should be like 500 yards away, NOT 200 or 300. If they can hear the call far away, they sure can hear your crunchy footsteps. If the snow is dead quiet and soft, that's a different matter. However, farther is better IMHO and it's nicer to see them coming some distance to the call anyway.

Good hunting,

John
 
Also I have noticed that some of the coyotes only respond to some of the calls. I had spoted one on a hill side about 300 yards away. I was in the middle of a feild... with my home made ghillie suit. So I Tryed the jack rabbit, then the cotton tail call... Not even looking at me. So I tryed my $2 squeeker... and came running lol. Another time, calling with my suit on again, with the jack rabit distress call, I looked over my sholder... and there was one 10yards behind me. :)
 
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