Coyotes got my neighbour's dog

Coyotepocalypse

one of my in-laws just lost a 10 year old Bouvier to coyotes this week. The 3 Bouviers are big and roam at large on the ranch at all times to protect the livestock (horses mainly) from said coyotes. Unfortunately the old one got caught out alone before his pack mates could help him. Their job is protecting the ranch and the poor pooch died doing his job.

The dogs are all outside working dogs but they are all very well loved and the family is devastated at the loss of a 10 year old pet. Too bad the family are not gun owners, not even a .22! Tomorrow and this weekend there will be a coyotepocalypse complements of my Sako Finnbear!

Happy to put my skills to work for the family :)
 
Claybuster said:
It is unwise to leave animals out but if coyotes determine my home, barn and paddocks are part of their natural environment they won't find it "natural" for very long. I don't go out looking for them but those that expect to "belong" too close for my liking will face terminal consequences.
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I kinda fancy that for the 2-legged critters too ;)
Dr.Oz
 
those Yotes are ballzy. My brother breeds Cane Corso's (Italian Mastiffs) His males range from 137lbs to just over 150. The coyotes have been coming into the yard 15 feet from one of his kennells and steeling dog food scraps and what not. the dogs go crazy and they are huge. if you have never seen a Cane Corso they kind of look like a monsterous pit bull but not instead of 60 lbs they are like 140 and over. well the females are only about 95-100 lbs but still.
When i was out there 2 weekend ago his neighbor brought over a dead calf from his farm for the dogs. well that night a few coyotes were in the yard trying to drag it away. (The fifteen or so dogs going nuts tipped us off) Just as we were looking out the window to see what was going on his biggest male who is housed with a one year old male (about 100lbs) and a young female (85 lbs ish) actually bust out of their kennel before our eyes. damn they are powerfull. the fence posts are in a concrete pad with metal fencing.
anyway, they gave chase to the yotes and there was no calling them back. we jump in the truck and haul ass through a couple of feilds and get them stopped and loaded up. We go to turn around and as the headlights hit the bush, glowing eyes everywhere. couldnt say how many but guessing more than 6 or 7. dogs spot em and give chase again jumping out of the already moving truck. ive got a tac light on my xcr. wish we could shoot at night, i would have lite em up.
We go home fix the kennel and the very next night more coyotes in the yard. Ballsy i tell ya. My brother wants to fence the yard and leave a few big boys out at night.
dont know wether they would try to lure away a female or a youngun but i told him not to leave either of those out for night.
those coyotes are going to be in for a big suprise if my brothers pack catches one of them. his biggest male was walking around dragging the calf between his legs by the neck when it first got dropped off. My sister in law took a pic. i will get her to send it to me so i can post it. then you can see the sheer size of these beasties.
F@@@in coyotes.
Is there anyway to be allowed to shoot the bastards out in the field at night?
 
Well I guess the ol coyotes have no right to do what comes naturally. There territory is theirs' until people decide to take it. Then if the wild animals have the temerity to hunt easy prey like nature teaches them like the old, the young and the stupid (domesticated animals) then people become angry.
Unbridled expansion is the rule in our society due to our economic behaviour.
I have sympathy for the poor dogs that were killed but I shake my head at the way people expand everywhere into natural land. We cannot help putting farms, houses, factories and roads everywhere just like the coyotes cannot help killing stupid slow weak creatures. Who is right?

Just something to think about.
 
RemingtonMarlin said:
German Shepherd is an emotional breed. My dog always accusing me of not sharing food with her:D. One will be shocked by the richness of her vocabulary. Besides, she is even get scared of a cuti cat or a flying plastic bag, which was not there before.



The future plan is to get at least one more, but have to a male. I feel that female GSD is not balanced enough with a too small sized head (mine weights 78 lbs and still looks like a puppy).
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The males are much calmer and easier to train. But they are heavy to lift when they get old and sore.
 
Teapot said:
Well I guess the ol coyotes have no right to do what comes naturally. There territory is theirs' until people decide to take it. Then if the wild animals have the temerity to hunt easy prey like nature teaches them like the old, the young and the stupid (domesticated animals) then people become angry.
Unbridled expansion is the rule in our society due to our economic behaviour.
I have sympathy for the poor dogs that were killed but I shake my head at the way people expand everywhere into natural land. We cannot help putting farms, houses, factories and roads everywhere just like the coyotes cannot help killing stupid slow weak creatures. Who is right?

Just something to think about.
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This particular story is based in southern Ontario, where farms have existed for more than 200 years. Coyotes became established in southern Ontario in the 1970's. They have adapted well to THEIR new range. Livestock farmers having been loosing animals since they arrived. Coyote numbers and range have increased as has their boldness.

Something else to consider....
 
diamondcutter13 said:
one of my in-laws just lost a 10 year old Bouvier to coyotes this week. The 3 Bouviers are big and roam at large on the ranch at all times to protect the livestock (horses mainly) from said coyotes.
The dogs are all outside working dogs but they are all very well loved and the family is devastated at the loss of a 10 year old pet. Too bad the family are not gun owners, not even a .22! Tomorrow and this weekend there will be a coyotepocalypse complements of my Sako Finnbear!
Happy to put my skills to work for the family :)
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I find it absolutely amazing that anyone would even consider ranching if they don't have the fire power to protect their stock. I feel sorry for the dog, but I think your in-laws may not be the brightest stars in the sky.
 
phreddy said:
I find it absolutely amazing that anyone would even consider ranching if they don't have the fire power to protect their stock. I feel sorry for the dog, but I think your in-laws may not be the brightest stars in the sky.
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They have alot of land but only a small amount of horses they breed. Not every hobby farmer out there has guns nor the skills to safely use them to shoot animals. It has nothing to do with their IQ, they have nothing against guns or killing coyotes, they just don't want to go out at their age and get guns and learn to shoot.

Besides, I'd rather shoot them.
 
Ol' Smokey said:
If someone threatens a family member, I am not going to start thinking about potential consequences: I will protect them to the best of my ability. Believe me, once the adrenaline kicks in ........ I have been there. Fortunately, my reaction to a perceived threat to my wife was obvious, and the person who acted threateningly took one look at me, and left quickly.
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bahahaha....this is armchair warrior to the extreme folks. look out! :eek::runaway::jerkit:


like other SENSIBLE people have mentioned, dogs have been tied up since humans started domesticating canines. but, these people are suddenly idiots for having their mutt tied up? doesnt really make sense does it?
 
canadian hunter312 said:
bahahaha....this is armchair warrior to the extreme folks. look out! :eek::runaway::jerkit:


like other SENSIBLE people have mentioned, dogs have been tied up since humans started domesticating canines. but, these people are suddenly idiots for having their mutt tied up? doesnt really make sense does it?
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Don't what your issues are, but sorry dude, it happened. It's just plain rude to essentially call someone a liar. Easy to do when you're some anonymous troll. So right back at ya.:jerkit:

I was pointing out that in a situation where a family member is threatened, it's easy to lose your cool.

Our dogs live with us 24/7. Some folks have a different relationship with their dogs, that's fine.

Given the coyote situation here, if you tie them out, they become coyote bait - nice. A**hats who do that shouldn't own dogs.
 
For those who treat your dog like your family maybe you should get rid of the dog and spend better quality time with your family. My dog is outside 24/7, it's a dog, not a member of my family. I train her, hunt her and take care of her. She has a shelter which she doesn't use outside of the winter, she gets fed and watered. She's worth more money than my truck but she's still a dog. If you leave a hunting dog loose they will go hunting, its what they do. They should be tied or kennelled if you aren't out there with them. If your that worried about yotes then trap them.
Just my humble opinion :)
 
We have been experiencing bolder coyote behaviour out here, too. My neighbour down the street, who has lived here all her life, says she's never seen them so aggressive.

I got a rude shock last week when I looked out the window one morning around 7:30 and saw my neighbour's golden lab apparently "playing" with THREE coyotes, about 30' from the house. Usually the 'yotes cross the road from the woodland and keep to the fence line 70 yards away. When I went outside the coyotes took off. (I had my Marlin .44 mag, but I couldn't have made a safe shot anyway.) The dog was unhurt but my neighbour down the street said her Ger. shepherd had had the same experience last year and did eventually get bitten when he turned away. A few weeks before that I saw two run right behind the house- and two of my cats were outside, so I was pretty worried.

Usually they just give the dogs something legitimate to bark at and no-one bothers much about them, but they've been driving everyone nuts in the last few months so some of us are hoping to take one or two out before they do attack something. I got a quick shot at one a couple of weeks ago at the back of my property but unfortunately missed. Hopefully scared the c**p out of it, though.

:) Stuart
 
.5MOA said:
For those who treat your dog like your family maybe you should get rid of the dog and spend better quality time with your family.
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LOL. maybe you should worry about yourself and not tell others what to do.


besides, people are capable of spoiling a pet and having a strong bond with their family members. you are simply projecting your own shortcomings onto others.
 
.5MOA said:
For those who treat your dog like your family maybe you should get rid of the dog and spend better quality time with your family. My dog is outside 24/7, it's a dog, not a member of my family. I train her, hunt her and take care of her. She has a shelter which she doesn't use outside of the winter, she gets fed and watered. She's worth more money than my truck but she's still a dog. If you leave a hunting dog loose they will go hunting, its what they do. They should be tied or kennelled if you aren't out there with them. If your that worried about yotes then trap them.
Just my humble opinion :)
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Over the years I've had inside dogs and outside dogs. Every one was a member of the family. They always enriched the quality time for every member of the family. I understand your point of view. Please try to understand other ways of thinking about K9's.
 
No the reason is I have 6 boys and not enough time to spoil a pet because I AM spending time with them. Maybe you should try it.

DiSmAnTLeR said:
LOL. maybe you should worry about yourself and not tell others what to do.


besides, people are capable of spoiling a pet and having a strong bond with their family members. you are simply projecting your own shortcomings onto others.
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.5MOA said:
No the reason is I have 6 boys and not enough time to spoil a pet because I AM spending time with them. Maybe you should try it.
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Maybe if you practiced birth control you'd not be so short of time spoiling them you could enjoy other things in life! :D


Untiltheangelsfall :As long as you'd still pick a humans life before a dogs then I am all good with dog lovers

Read the news, there's a lot of folks I'd put my dogs life WAY ahead of!
 
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