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Hi guys,

Would like to know what you do your dirty work with.

Rifle.... Calibre..... Camo.... Calls.... Time of day

I have seen about 15 coyotes this week! Three of them had really ratty sickly looking coats. Mange? Never seen one before.
 
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sealhunter said:
Hi guys,

Would like to know what you do your dirty work with.

Rifle.... Calibre..... Camo.... Calls.... Time of day

I have seen about 15 coyotes this week! Three of them had really ratty sickly looking coats. Mange? Never seen one before.
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I use a remington model 788 in 22-250 white camo in snow areas, used to use hand calls but just accuired an foxpro fx3 and don't thin time of day really matters to tell you the truth. just make sure the place is usually an good area to sit, thats my biggest problem i believe.
happy hunting
sv7772
 
well last winter I was shooting a Remington Model 700 chambered in 243 Winchester, and will most likely do so again for 2008. It has a 24" stainless barrel, and for most of last winter I was running a laminated stock on it, but just before spring I switched to a snow camo Bell & Carlson Medalist fiberglass stock, which is real nice. I was shooting 70 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips @ 3500 f/s which worked real well on the five coyotes I shot with that rifle, at ranges out to 300 yards. This coming winter I may try something else, summer load development will start soon with the light 55 grain Nosler BT, which in inital tests seems like it should be accurate and give a velocity of around 3850 f/s, although I've pushed them up to 3970 f/s but accuracy went south. Topped with a Leupold 3-9x40 VXII with the LR duplex. I put a 2.5" sunshade on it to cut the glare off the snow and to give me cool sniper look.

For calls, the past two years I have enjoyed using a Foxpro Fx3, but I sold that last month to a buddy and before December I'll most likely upgrade to the Fx5. Teamed with the Jack In the Box decoy, its can be a very deadly combo. Used to use mouth calls for a few years and had good results with them, but I do prefer to hunt with the electronic caller. :)

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I've found early morning through late morning the most productive time for calling, but any time you can get out and hunt is good. I havent had much luck in high winds, or warm weather.

For camo last winter I used a Cabela's coverup parka, in Prairie Ghost snow camo. Its a good pattern. This winter I might pick up some Columbia wool in a greyish pattern that will work in both fall and winter. Lately Ive been wearing some snow camo fleece pants, Mossy Oak Tree Stand I believe is the pattern. Im usually sittin down anyways so its not too critical. Speaking of sitting down, a good waterproof foam cushion is an excellent thing to bring along. :D

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PS heres a list of everything I pack around :

243 rifle
Foxpro caller with carry bag that also holds :
extra half dozen rounds of ammo
remote for caller
gps
mouth calls
meth
and I pack the Jack in the Box decoy
Bushnell Elite 1500 rangefinder
Stoney Point steady stix
digital camera
 
When compared to a hand call a foxpro is a pricey addition. Mind you for the amout of call I have I may be closer $ wise than I think. Though you can easily start with a variable pitch closed reed and a open reed howler. One more thing an electronic call may not be legal to use (like here in AB) check you local regs

Get the primos mastering the art of predator calling dvd and at least one other Randy Anderson DVD.

Gun and chambering there is a wide assortment 22 hornet , 221 and 17 fireball, 204 ruger(personal fav), 222 223 or 22-250, 243 and 25-06 are used but on the big side especially for keeping the fur. The rifle should have faster handling than your typical varmint rig, let the country you hunt pick that. Even in open country shots are typically pretty close it is common to be shooting at 75 yards or less with most (in my experience) being 150 or less.

If tight country a shotgun may not be a bad selection, I have been watching Predator Quest on wildTV and that guy carries both and he hunts really open country.

www.varmintal.com has some write ups as with www.coyotecanada.ca/

The first time you call in a coyote you will be hooked, and after the shot keep calling where there is one there is probably more and if they were out of view at the shot they probably did not spook.
 
My 2 bits

If you are hunting for fur then a smaller caliber is the way to go. I have had excellent results with the 55gr Sierra #1365 and the 40 gr Hollow point bullets. The 55s pass right through but do not blow up and leave a small entry and a thumb sized exit. The 40gr HPs almost always blow up inside the coyote and do not exit but do not blow up on the surface.

A 22/.250 or Swift will give you better long range trajectories but a .223 will kill coyotes just as dead at ranges under 200 yards.

Never bought into the .20 caliber thing and really don't know what people are using (with succes) for loads and bullets for harvesting furs.

I have been shooting an improved .17 wildcat for two seasons now and will not use anything else until my bullet supply is depleted. I have been using the 30gr Berger BT Match bullet at 4150-4200 fps and rarely get exits on any type of shot whether it be quartering, broadside, frontal, or running away shots. Most shots are usually the cliche bang flop and have killed many coyotes at the 400 yard plus margin that take a couple of steps an are dead.

I will be the first to admit that a .17 is not for everyone. I talk to lots of people that feel under gunned with a .17 and that they drift too much and do not have enough energy to kill coyotes at long range (what ever that means). Most of these people are not aware of the newer bullets available for the .17.

Buy a couple of different sounding calls and rotate calls if you call the same stands. Get a squeeker as well, if you hunt enough you will have coyotes hang up and often yo can get them coming with some squeeking.

Biggest thing is to set up where you can see well, especially the down wind direction.

I used to be movement paranoid and after hunting for several years have learned how much and when a person can move and not move.

In winter some type of white camo is your friend. You do not have to go all out and get your gun and all equipment camoed.

I don't shoot coyotes other than in winter but imagine that any other time the coyotes should be a little more cautious. Nothing like several weeks of -25 to -35 weather to make a coyote good and hungry and a little less cautious.

Biggest thing is know your gun and how to shoot. No point in calling in a coyote and then shooting and missing for whatever reason. I am not in the habit of educating coyotes but my record is far from perfect. Just makes calling that coyote in again all that more difficult.

I personally would not be shooting coyotes now unless they are killing your sheep, cattle, etc. To shoot coyotes now just for fun is a bit cruel (my opinion) in that they are nursing and feeding little ones and I hate to see anything starve to death because you just shot a #####. Wait until late fall and then go to town and it will also be a little more profitable as well.
 
Rifle: Remington M700 ADL
Caliber: .223 Remington
Scope: Leupold VariX II 3-9x40
Other Equipment: Many brands of mouth blown distress calls & howlers for variety, Foxpro FX3, Foxpro Jack-in-the-Box decoy, Mossy Oak's Breakup camo, Natural Gear's snow camo.
Season: September through to late winter for prime pelts.
Techniques: Although calling any time of day works, I prefer early to mid-mornings and then again later in the afternoons until just before dark.
 
I'm shooting a Remington 700VS in .22-250 with Leupold 3-9X40mm scope. Thinking about maybe trying the VXII 6-18X40mm for a little more magnification. Haven't been able to justify dropping $500.00+ for a Foxpro yet, so I've been using a mixture of hand/mouth calls & an inexpensive Cass Creek electronic call with additional speaker. Usually stick with Hornady 55gr V-Max & Varget powder with Winchester brass & primers.
 
I have taken a number of 'yotes with my .22 rimfire magnum. Calling them in to anywhere from 20 to 75 yards all have been one shot kills with no exit holes. It's ideal for those areas that are a little more populated and you don't want to startle the neighbors.
 
For coyotes, a Remington 700CDL in 25-06, Leupold VXII 6-18x40, 85 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips. ( "Fur" not an issue - pure population control ) Mostly late November to March, and prefer late in the day for canis latrans . Only chance at canis lupus so far was further north, late morning with a 35 Whelen. Successful. Hope to get in a bit more with the 25-06.

Last trip to AB (October) coulda' shot a half dozen from the drift boat from along some of the lower banks of the Bow ! A couple at less than 50 yards "yappin" at us ... but still out of reach of a 5-weight fly rod ! Nobody in that part of the world shootin' yotes ?
 
I have taken a number of 'yotes with my .22 rimfire magnum. Calling them in to anywhere from 20 to 75 yards all have been one shot kills with no exit holes
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I was thinking that a .22 Magnum would be ideal for putting the smack down on lynx without blowing them to smithereens :)
 
sealhunter said:
Hi guys,

Would like to know what you do your dirty work with.

Rifle.... Calibre..... Camo.... Calls.... Time of day

I have seen about 15 coyotes this week! Three of them had really ratty sickly looking coats. Mange? Never seen one before.
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For me I use a Remington 700 in 17 Remington! Or my Remington 700 in 204 Ruger.
I wear a plain white jacket, and plain white pants, with a white face mask, of course if there is snow on the ground. I have a Foxpro FX3 that I have use for a couple of seasons. I am not 100% sure if it was worth the big price tag on it. As for time of day, go out anytime, studies have shown coyotes are active all day, and night, you just have to find a hungry one, that will come in.
 
Remington 788 in .308win. A little over kill but gets the job done clean and at a further range. Gonna try an electronic call this year not sure which one to buy though. Probably will set up a blind, warmer and I'm in a more wooded area anyway. And in the occasional clearing in the sunflower fields are amazing spots, they come right in and stand there looking for the food. Whack! done. If any regina locals want to head out sometime I'm in.
 
Great pictures todbartell & Dogleg!! And as someone mentioned, they should be in a magazine. This type of shooting that, especially in the off season, is something I'd like to give a try.
A couple of questions, have you ever tried similar calling and/or decoy methods on wolves? The reason I ask is on the island, we don't have the 'luxury' of coyotes. And how about on crows?
Foxpro Fx3 and Fx5 were made mention of, in addition to Jack-in-the-box Decoy[/B], where would be the best place for getting this type of equipment?
I looked through a few catalogues, although not ones that are up to date, but the only one I see a listing in for the Foxpro Jack-in-the-box decoy & a 16BGame Caller with Remote is Cabela's.
 
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