CQB and SR Rifle Handling Tips

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I just returned from the ORA CQB Carbine Clinic. Great opportunity to learn good techniques and practice a certain drill over and over until we got it right (or at least until we showed some improvement.)

In CQB we also serve as the Safety Guy for another shooter, so we get to watch another shooter close up. After a competition we have the experience of what went well/or sucked for both ourselves and for the other guy.

After 5 years of experience, I would say that the single most common AR-15 glitch is a magazine not being properly seated. This is the most common problem I have had and I think it is the problem I most usually see with the other shooter.

In competition we learn to recognize that if the gun does not go bang on the second shot it is because the mag is not seated and we can identify and correct the problem fast enough to still get all our shots off. Unless the mag falls out.

In the real world, someone using the rifle for real could pay with his life. So it is a serious issue. We have to learn to seat the mag EVERY TIME.

There are two parts to the solution. Seating the mag and then testing it before carrying on. A simple tug on the mag after seating will save the day.

Seating the mag is mechanically a bit different if the bolt is locked back vs a tactical load when the bolt is closed.

If the bolt is locked back, the mag should easily insert and click into place. I try to lock my bolt back at the start of each shoot, before I insert the mag. This means the top round does not offer any resistance, since it does not hit the bottom of the bolt. Some mags are pinned at 5.1 rounds instead of at 5.7 rounds, so the resistance against the bottom of the bolt can be quite high.

Locking the bolt back is particularly useful when starting the modified prone. I see more poorly seated mags in that stage of the shoot than in any other. I think this is because the position is rather awkward and mags don't get seated with as much authority as when standing. Locking the mag back before laying down makes it easy to latch the mag into an open rifle.

Many of the loads at the start of a stage are with the bolt already locked back. The rapid fires always follow a previous stage, so the rifle bolt is locked back. If you only have one mag with a 5.1 round capacity, mark it clearly and use it for the 4 shot rapid fire. It will load easily because the bolt is always locked back. If you have several 5.1 round mags, mark them with a big "R" and use them for the rapid matches, since loading will be more reliable.

The other half of the drill is to tug the mag after seating it. This simple step would eliminate the glitch.

One thing that I learned at the Clinic was that hitting the bottom of the mag enthusiastically when seating it can cause the inertia of the rounds to depress the column of ammo and then scramble them so that the next round won't feed. If you seat the mag by pushing on the bottom with the palm of your hand you will get a better latch engagement than if you seat just by gripping the side of the mag.

All you mags should be tested for additional clearance when loaded with 5 rounds. By pushing down on the top round, you should have enough compression to almost load another round. This makes it easier to latch the mag when loading under a closed bolt. I call this clearance a 5.7 round mag. I have had a number of mags that I can barely get the last round into and they have no additional movement. I call these 5 round, or 5.1 round mags.

The fix is easy peasy. Just file a bit off the bottom of the follower, where it hits the rivet, to allow the column to depress a bit further. Just a tenth of an inch would make a big difference.

There is not enough room to drill a new hole for a rivet. It would be too close to the old hole. So remove the rivet, take the mag apart, file some off the bottom of the follower and install a new rivet in the old hole.
 
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Very cool...thanks for sharing. I'm a noob at this competition stuff so appreciate all the insight and wisdom others are willing to share.
 
Difficulty locking a full 30rnd mag into a rifle with a closed bolt is why 28 rounds is the usual max.

I have come across lots of 9.5/10 and 4.5/5rnd mags over the years.
 
Ganderite nailed it^^^ I just pulled my 5.0/ 30 rd Magpuls (three of them) aside and did just that...

I drilled out the rivet then cleaned up the aluminum shavings. I disassembled the magazine follower from the body and took my dremel tool and ground off a bit from the rear of the follower. I "dry" reassembled the newly modified follower with a fresh rivet in the previously drilled hole. Then reassembled the magazine with the fresh "un-popped" rivet taped in place.

I tested 5 rounds and life was good. Then I tested to see that half or 0.7 of a cartridge would drop in and lower that magazine follower. If it needed to go lower, I would start that grinding/sanding/dremeling process again.

Now all three 5.0/30 magazines are modified to 5.5/30 magazines and will lock on a closed/forward bolt!!

Thanks for the suggestions there, Ganderite! :wave:

Cheers,
Barney
 
Don't thank me. I was just repeating what Tim taught me at the Clinic.

By the way, I had a problem at one point in the shoot. The bolt would not close all the way. I thought it was badly sized cases. Turned out it was a loose primer in the locking lug area of the barrel.
 
I've never heard of tapping the bottom of a mag scrambling the rounds inside. Have you seen this happen?

The CF teaches tap the mag once inserted and tug to ensure it is locked.

Tap and rack is the stoppage drill for a click with no bang and your bolt is fully forward. Meaning your mag is not seated and the bolt failed to strip a round or it's a faulty round that needs to be ejected.
 
I've never heard of tapping the bottom of a mag scrambling the rounds inside. Have you seen this happen?

The CF teaches tap the mag once inserted and tug to ensure it is locked.

Tap and rack is the stoppage drill for a click with no bang and your bolt is fully forward. Meaning your mag is not seated and the bolt failed to strip a round or it's a faulty round that needs to be ejected.

Some idiots teach or have been taught to tap and rack for all stoppages..................as apparently all stoppages are failures to feed...............stupid but entertaining to watch.
 
I've seen an American do that. He had a double feed, tapped and racked without observing his bolt, almost created a mythical triple feed.
 
At the Clinic Tim suggested a good way to solve the issue of a mag locking into place. He suggested that before the "Load" command, the shooter should lock his bolt back. This way the top round does not get compressed and the mag will click into place easily. I think this is especially important in the modified prone, where loading is a bit awkward.
 
At the Clinic Tim suggested a good way to solve the issue of a mag locking into place. He suggested that before the "Load" command, the shooter should lock his bolt back. This way the top round does not get compressed and the mag will click into place easily. I think this is especially important in the modified prone, where loading is a bit awkward.

Also, loading in this manner allows the rifle to be placed on "Safe" before chambering a round. Another reason why I typically load and ready this way.
 
At the Clinic Tim suggested a good way to solve the issue of a mag locking into place. He suggested that before the "Load" command, the shooter should lock his bolt back. This way the top round does not get compressed and the mag will click into place easily. I think this is especially important in the modified prone, where loading is a bit awkward.

We also load on a closed bolt on the Snaps and Advance and Fire. Best solution overall I think is to have mags with enough room spare to allow this.
 
There are some shoots where the words of command are: "Actions forward. Load." No room for interpretation. Best to know you can carry out this action if it is what is called for.
 
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There are some shoots where the words of command are: "Actions forward. Load." No room for interpretation. Best to know you can carry out this action if it is what is called for.

Some wise shooters at my last clinic said, "Hey, barney, why worry about the 5 rounds in your 5/30 magazine and the issue of loading on a forward bolt, when we are using LAR magazines?" Aha :eek: Smart shooters. So I bought a bunch of them LAR 10 round pistol magazines from SFRC in Eastern Ontario. Now I'm pairing them up with the GS Design mag extender block so the contraption looks and feels like a 5/30, but behaves like a 10/30 setup.

Have a look at the pictures....

Here they are already assembled.. Like working with LEGO blocks!



Here I am sharing the love with my Quebec CQB lovers!



Keep on practicing those magazine changes! :wave:

Barney
 
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