crate of mosin nagant 91/30

Not knowing what you have in mind here I am going to throw some advice at you.

If possible, purchase the best you can locate. Preferably all matching numbers, mixture of Finn,Russian, Chinese etc. Mixture of hex and round receivers. Early dates preferred as well as wwII dates. Different models such as the carbines etc.

You may need a couple of crates. This would be a good collection to lock away in the safe and bring out 25 years from now. One thing to remember though very few milsurps sold today are being bubbaed. Not like they were back in the early post war decades. Now they are all individual shrines to whichever war was fought with them.

If you are just looking to move them to your buds so you can get cheap shooters it doesn't much matter.
 
You probably won't get the price your looking for unless buying directly from a importer, or someone really close to one.

Bearhunter offers good advice.
 
Depending on where you are located , you may want to check with your local Canadian Tire for Mosin 91/30s . I bought two 91/30s with hex receivers and all matching numbers for a 178 each plus tax over the Christmas Holidays . Another CT was selling the 91/30s with the round receivers for 140 each . The hex receivers seem to be drying up a little , but there are lots of round receiver 91/30s around.....
 
BMcK said:
You probably won't get the price your looking for unless buying directly from a importer, or someone really close to one.

Bearhunter offers good advice.
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Only the bolt action is good for long term investment. Semi-auto in long term may have cz 858 problems.
Anyway gold will perform better than guns in long term maybe with the exeption of ammo sulprus ( I think Mosin ammo will perform the best in time).
 
Only the bolt action is good for long term investment. Semi-auto in long term may have cz 858 problems.
Anyway gold will perform better than guns in long term maybe with the exeption of ammo sulprus ( I think Mosin ammo will perform the best in time).
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I hear you. I don't own a single semi, just not my thing. I would love to find a great deal on 7.62 x 54r surplus. My problem is I would like to test it before I commit to a really large amount.
 
If you are local to us and can pickup, drop me a PM, if not, I would suggest West Rifle.

Ryan
 
cornelunc said:
Only the bolt action is good for long term investment. Semi-auto in long term may have cz 858 problems.
Anyway gold will perform better than guns in long term maybe with the exeption of ammo sulprus ( I think Mosin ammo will perform the best in time).
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Hi Corne. I have to disagree with you on gold outperforming firearms as far as value appreciation.

Overall, I have had far better luck with purchasing firearms in EXCELLENT condition and squirreling them away than I have had with gold. Many of the firarms, like Garands and Mausers have increased by as much as 2000% since I bought them. Certainly can't say the same about gold.

Ammunition is also a good buy. 360 rounds of 303Br in chargers, in bandoliers in hermetically sealed cans for $10 now brings $400. Not bad at all. Way better than precious metals and gemstones.

The thing about firearms is they increase in value steadily rather than leaps and bounds. Just a steady creep upwards. Most today are not willing to wait it out. They want it all NOW. Patience is more than just a virtue. It is a requirement for building a financial base to retire on. One of the best purchases I ever made was a dozen P08s of various dates in 30cal and 9mm. All of them were EXC and one was an Artillery model with all accessories including 8 snail drums in a wooden box. The pistol and drum crate were unit marked to a WWI German Machine Gun Company. I never actually held any of those pieces. They never made it into Canada. I bought the whole collection from an estate sale in California over 30 years ago. I paid a storage fee on those pistols at the shop owned by a friend. He didn't want to charge me anything but I told him he may have to sit on those pistols for me for years. As it was, the hundred dollars per year I gave him to keep the pistols in his safe was money well spent. I completely forgot about them, other than the rental payment. Then, in 2007 my friend became ill. I went down to visit as I wasn't sure there would be another chance to do so. Believe it or not, It cost me more to rent storage on those pistols than I paid for them. He suggested I sell them. He was turning the store over to his son, who had only known me as a friend of his father.
I made a deal with him to advertise and sell the pistols. He was willing to accept a 15% seller's fee or take his pick of one of the pistols other than the artillery model. He took his pick of one the eleven remaining pistols. It was a 97% all matching 1941 date K series with a lovely brown holster and matching spare mag. He had good taste. Similar pistols today go for $3500 to $5000 depending on how bad a buyer wants it to fill a niche in their collection. I did extremely well on the sale of those pistols. Far better than any gold stocks or even physical gold, other than some gold coins that were close to a thousand years old.

In my experience physical gold is the only way to hold gold. Don't expect to make any money on it. Gold is an inflation hedge only. It won't buy any more the day you sell it than the day you bought it. Everyone should have 10-12 troy oz of it just in case. But I have seen times when one oz of gold would only buy a 1kg bag of rice or a two litre bottle of beer or a 5 litre can of gas or diesel. When push comes to shove, it's all relevant to the situation you are in at the time.
 
bearhunter said:
Hi Corne. I have to disagree with you on gold outperforming firearms as far as value appreciation.

Overall, I have had far better luck with purchasing firearms in EXCELLENT condition and squirreling them away than I have had with gold. Many of the firarms, like Garands and Mausers have increased by as much as 2000% since I bought them. Certainly can't say the same about gold.

Ammunition is also a good buy. 360 rounds of 303Br in chargers, in bandoliers in hermetically sealed cans for $10 now brings $400. Not bad at all. Way better than precious metals and gemstones.

The thing about firearms is they increase in value steadily rather than leaps and bounds. Just a steady creep upwards. Most today are not willing to wait it out. They want it all NOW. Patience is more than just a virtue. It is a requirement for building a financial base to retire on. One of the best purchases I ever made was a dozen P08s of various dates in 30cal and 9mm. All of them were EXC and one was an Artillery model with all accessories including 8 snail drums in a wooden box. The pistol and drum crate were unit marked to a WWI German Machine Gun Company. I never actually held any of those pieces. They never made it into Canada. I bought the whole collection from an estate sale in California over 30 years ago. I paid a storage fee on those pistols at the shop owned by a friend. He didn't want to charge me anything but I told him he may have to sit on those pistols for me for years. As it was, the hundred dollars per year I gave him to keep the pistols in his safe was money well spent. I completely forgot about them, other than the rental payment. Then, in 2007 my friend became ill. I went down to visit as I wasn't sure there would be another chance to do so. Believe it or not, It cost me more to rent storage on those pistols than I paid for them. He suggested I sell them. He was turning the store over to his son, who had only known me as a friend of his father.
I made a deal with him to advertise and sell the pistols. He was willing to accept a 15% seller's fee or take his pick of one of the pistols other than the artillery model. He took his pick of one the eleven remaining pistols. It was a 97% all matching 1941 date K series with a lovely brown holster and matching spare mag. He had good taste. Similar pistols today go for $3500 to $5000 depending on how bad a buyer wants it to fill a niche in their collection. I did extremely well on the sale of those pistols. Far better than any gold stocks or even physical gold, other than some gold coins that were close to a thousand years old.

In my experience physical gold is the only way to hold gold. Don't expect to make any money on it. Gold is an inflation hedge only. It won't buy any more the day you sell it than the day you bought it. Everyone should have 10-12 troy oz of it just in case. But I have seen times when one oz of gold would only buy a 1kg bag of rice or a two litre bottle of beer or a 5 litre can of gas or diesel. When push comes to shove, it's all relevant to the situation you are in at the time.
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Thanks Gerald
I allways apreciate your experience.
God bless.
 
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