Crazy dream of sks pcc

Perhaps when the X25 is on par with the 9mm price wise. It will seem less interesting, but with the number of com block hand guns coming in, I'm sure that cheap new ammo will continue to follow. Or, at least I hope. My M57 is more fun to shoot then my 1911. Or the couple of striker fired I have handled. Not that I have puzzled out the reason why. . . .
 
X25 is never going to become cheap. The vast majority of surplus was on the market decades ago. Factory new is much more expensive than 9mm. I think my last boxes of S&B were $27+taxes. You can reload for cheap but brass is somewhat expensive and can be hard to source in the current times. Handloaded x25 would be very interesting from a Carbine though, I have pushed a 90grn XTP to 1700fps+ out of a TT-33. I'd love to know what it would do from a Carbine length barrel!
 
Emptypockets said:
Perhaps when the X25 is on par with the 9mm price wise. It will seem less interesting, but with the number of com block hand guns coming in, I'm sure that cheap new ammo will continue to follow. Or, at least I hope. My M57 is more fun to shoot then my 1911. Or the couple of striker fired I have handled. Not that I have puzzled out the reason why. . . .
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x25 prices have nearly doubled in the past 7 years. It won't be long before 9mm is cheaper, I'd be surprised if another 5 years go by and x25 is still cheaper than 9mm.
 
Making yourself a x25 Carbine isn't a bad idea you just need to find something more suitable and keep in mind that surplus ammo isn't what it used to be. I may attempt something with an SMLE receiver sometime in the future. Think Ruskie version of the Delisle. Minus the suppression of course...
 
Humm, may be a straight pull conversion ( no gas pressure to worry about) trigger group I think would stay the same . A chamber insert and a bolt head of the right size . Then the mag will need to be sorted out, maybe a pistol mag welded in to the SkS mag. Getting the alignment right might be time consuming . You could use a pistol grip mag well "the lower receiver ":popCorn:
 
Keep in mind the barrel as is on an SKS will likely produce terrible accuracy. X25 is nominally .308 and I have seen surplus vary from .306-.309.
 
Just get a M1 Chiappa in 9 mm - problem solved.

Nobody wanted them when they were available because the first series had FTF issues but this was resolved 5 years ago, glad I got one a few weeks ago for cheap. Great little gun, all you want in a 9mm - PCC whatever that is.

7.62x25 is a very hot round, never liked it, that's why those toks are so cheap, kicks like a mule (worse than 45 ACP), 9 mm is good and cheap with many flavour varieties.

Maybe I will do a prank on my wife and let her buy a cheap tok as first handgun (she will get her license soon) - she will most likely throw it in the garbage, lol - with a broken wrist.

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Looking at that Wanstalls Tokarev SKS I'm thinking it doesn't have a gas system and is set up as a blowback. (Edit: it definitely says that in the description. I should learn to read.) Now I'm wondering if the weight of a solid bolt the same dimensions as the bolt and carrier combined would be enough to make it operate safely. Wheels are turning...

Who has a janky SKS barreled receiver they'll donate to some mad science?

Edit: I'm dead serious. I have a mill, lathe and the reamer to get this project moving.
 
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X25 is never going to become cheap. The vast majority of surplus was on the market decades ago. Factory new is much more expensive than 9mm. I think my last boxes of S&B were $27+taxes. You can reload for cheap but brass is somewhat expensive and can be hard to source in the current times. Handloaded x25 would be very interesting from a Carbine though, I have pushed a 90grn XTP to 1700fps+ out of a TT-33. I'd love to know what it would do from a Carbine length barrel!
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7.62x25 brass can be made from .223 which is plentiful and mostly useless now that we can't shoot most of our .223 rifles anymore.
Lee shows some loads for 110 grain bullets although I haven't see the bulk plated bullets being offered by Canadian distributors in that size for a few years. With the resurgence of interest in the .30 carbines, you'd think there would be more offerings for the .30 110 grain bullet.
 
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7.62x25 brass can be made from .223 which is plentiful and mostly useless now that we can't shoot most of our .223 rifles anymore.
Lee shows some loads for 110 grain bullets although I haven't see the bulk plated bullets being offered by Canadian distributors in that size for a few years. With the resurgence of interest in the .30 carbines, you'd think there would be more offerings for the .30 110 grain bullet.
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Have you ever made x25 from .223? I have and it's a time consuming and labor intensive process. I suppose with more thought and better ($$$) machines it may not be so bad. The sad truth is the brass will always be the weak link in keeping things cheap.

Best solution is to just buy a bunch of new starline or whatever and carry on. Campro does make a well priced 110 plated bullet. My loads pushed them to 2000fps or so and they worked just fine.
 
Or someone could bring these in... ;)

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Type 79. They could easily do an NR barrel.
 
Am I the only one who thinks x25 is cheap? Seems to be heaps of it around for .22 cpr. Granted I’m a newerish gun owner. I’m Considering a tokarev to replace my g17 as my ppc pistol. Can’t comment on an sks conversion. X39 is still pretty affordable esp surplus.
 
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