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Over the years it seems that crown land has been disappearing, or kept very secret here in southern Ontario. I used to hunt farm land/private land, but I no longer hunt with these people and have been hunting crown land since. there is very little in southern ont, and what is left is small and not even on the crown land mapping system. Ontario says it "promotes" hunting and "sponsor" some hunting shows, but in my eyes it doesn't seem like they want us hunting. I am a younger hunter in my mid 20's and am only the second hunter in my family, so there is no land that has been passed down or any tricks or methods to hunt. I've learnt on my own, mostly from my brother and any older fellow that was willing to talk about hunting. You can get as much education you want but if there is no land to hunt, you'll never gain experience, well to find a place is like pulling teeth, and when you get there sometimes it's WW2 in the bush, and the risk of being hit is higher. I do keep my orange on regardless of season.

I think that hunting is becoming obsolete with all these yuppies around. No one my age hunts. I push all the guys/girls I know who are interested in hunting to start hunting, if not this hunting thing will just be a story to tell. Ontario should open more land as crown land instead of selling all of it to turn a profit. We are hunters and gatherers by nature, and so we should keep It that way! It would be nice if they'd open more land for hunting and make it easy for hunters to find out where the land is and the boundaries, I don't want to go and hunt and have a farmer harass me because i'm on his land. Although this does happens on crown land all the time.

I guess the only way for me to keep hunting and have a good hunt is to buy some land before the government turns it into housing or takes away my land (like they did to my friends farm)
 
I haven't been able to find any Crown Land in Eastern Ontario either. Can't even find a good spot to offroad anymore now that La Rose and Summerstown forests have banned it. Even the local trout quarry near Cornwall is locked up tight.

I've only convinced one friend to get his PAL and go shooting with me, but even he refuses to get his hunting license.

I have some access to a friends farm to hunt on, but unless I want to shoot his cattle there isn't anything else there except crows. His neighbors harass me constantly when I'm out.

If you think there isn't any land available now, wait until the Algonquin Land Claim goes through.
 
Uh, Ontario isn't selling crown land for a profit. Crown land is federal not provincial and they don't sell it. There's only two ways to get crown land these days. One is through a settlement with the natives. Secondly, they will on an exception basis let towns and municipalities take over crown land if it's good for development. But they're not 'selling it for a profit'. Not at all.

In fact, almost all of the land in southern ontario is already privately owned. There simply isn't very much crown land in Southern Ontario and hasn't been in approximatelly forever. Nothing's changing here. You live in a densely populated area full of privately owned land. That just is. It's not the fault of the gov't selling off crown land.

Nevertheless, there's still reasonable opportunities around. Hullett marsh is near Goderich. GRCA has about 10-20 parcels of land around Cambridge you can hunt. Conestoga lake offers hunting. Luther marsh east of Guelph allows hunting. and there's another tract east of Toronto somewhere that allows hunting and atv'ing. So it's around, you just have to find it. You might have to drive an hour, but that's what you get when you live in populated areas.

The other clear option is to just drive north for a couple hours. Even if you're in toronto, going to haliburton is an easy day trip there and back.
 
I ment them selling land in general not crown land I know its worded a bit wrong my mistake. I do hunt around southern Ont and other spots. and as for now i'm stuck in this damn city. The MNR makes it hard to find crown land I have used there map and have called a few offices asking for maps and I get the same answer from all of them. They no longer have the maps and want you to use the online mapping atlas. The atlas doesn't even show nonquon. Thanks for telling me about those other spots I knew some of them but not all. I drive 2hrs away so driving isn't the problem, it's the fact that land is becoming less and less and hunters are becoming scarce.
 
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http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/CrownLand/2ColumnSubPage/STEL02_176757.html See how easy it is to buy your own peic... oh wait they haven't sold crown land off to "turn a profit" in years to individuals, and the land that they have is up north where you aren't hunting.

There has never been a lot of crown land in Southern Ontario in your lifetime and none of it has really disappeared. Go knock on doors like everyone else, you are in the same boat as people were before your time.
 
I have friends with farms in southern Ontario and they had there farms taken away / sold and not for a good price to put up the 407 and the other farm I forget what it was used for but they both had to give up there farms down in southern ont. to the government for development. that's what I ment by them getting rid of land.
 
and who says I don't hunt up north? or that I don't knock on doors? If I could get time off of work i'd be hunting way up north with the rest of my hunting friends but i'm stuck down here and can only do day/weekend trips.
 
I'm not really sure what to say. The situation in Southern On hasn't changed much in the past while. You also can't blame the government for not opening up hunting opportunities for you. If you want them to "open up more crown land" you're going to be taking land away from private land owners and will be doing the same thing they're doing for developing infrastructure. I think its just easier if you knock on some doors.
 
I understand that and do realize that being in a populated area there wont be much land to hunt. your right all I can do is hunt north of here and knock on doors. the gov. has to do what the majority of people want not what I want.
 
I used to live about an hour away but I had to come back down here. I do plan on moving but not in the near future. Eventually when I can afford it.
 
Have no idea what your personal situation is but if you run equipment of any kind, head out west, they are crying for people with experience. There are approx. 4 million people in all of BC and over 90% of them are in the lower mainland. I came west in 1976 (after working in Que and Ont) and have never looked back. Good money and great outdoor opportunities of all kinds. Alberta is pretty much the same story. Saskabush is full of opportunity. Big country.
 
I've found the atlas to be really useful and user friendly. As long as you're not using it to find land in southern Ontario it works great and even shows hatched areas where conditions suitable for deer exist. It can be a bit slow and laggy but that is to be expected with how much information is really on it.

People that say crown land is hard to find are not trying hard enough.
 
atomicslave said:
Really you find that user friendly, maybe I am just missing something but I dont see any kind of legend to that map.
Click to expand...

At the top left:

Map Layers> Legend.


I find it takes forever to load the land classification after I zoom in onto the area. When I'm scouting out crown land online I'll use the Crown Land Atlas, Google Maps, and the OMNR Topographic Map Viewer which loads a lot faster and shows most property lines and satellite imagery before you even have to reference them on the atlas.
 
I've been trying to find information on crown land in south east Ontario it's just not available. The land use atlas is worthless - no info for this part of Ontario. The MNR doesn't stock the hard copy maps - ETA on getting new printing at least a year. The maps are being updated.
The MNR info line people just tell me that oh there is no crown land in southern Ontario. Well yeah, there is lots of it at least in eastern Ontario. It's one more Toronto focussed issue affecting the rest of the province.

There are large areas of crown land commonly used for hunting in south east Ontario, it's just very difficult to get anyone to give you the information that accurately defines the boundaries of these areas.
 
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