Cruel video from China

What you don't seem to be able to grasp Wally is that is was THEY (PETA or a similar group) that did THIS (the video).

THIS -- the video -- would NEVER have been done without THEM. THEY found a guy willing to do what they wanted for a fee and paid him to do it. He wouldn't have done it for ####s and giggles because it did not make monetary sense.

THEY contracted a hit. In most societies legal systems that makes THEM more culpable than the person they contracted. THEY tortured by proxy and that makes THEM worse than the guy who did the cutting.

The video is sick. The guy who cut is sick. The people who paid him to do it for their cause's gain are evil.
 
Can you imagine the $$$'s that video is worth to PETA. Whether they paid to film a guy skin a live critter is nothing compared to the idea they 'only' filmed it and didn't gut the ####ing guy doing the skinning.
 
I am not,in any way,getting into a "peta or other" debate:confused:
But I agree with you sjemactotally .
This is all new to me,and I'm totally "f**kING PISSED"about it.

Welcome to the world of the awake my friend, and it only gets worse.

Unfortunatly, this is a weapon. They are using this weapon against us, as a whole. Anyone who use any animal for any purpose is a target. We have no weapon against them either. Watch a hunting show, it doesn't make us look like the most compassionate people out there. Now imagine a fence sitter. One of the majority of people out there who doesn't support hunters or anti hunters. They don't care but could be persuaded either way. Once they see that, what are they supposed to think? Their not going to watch that video and scrutinize it's authinticity. They will see what they need to and come to their own conclusions. The only recourse we have, and that's everybody from chicken farmers to trappers, is to turn their media against them. We need to show the public that wasn't our doing, rather it was theirs. But it's not an easy thing to do. I shared that video on another site trying to relay that message. Well needless to say it didn't go over too well. We need to fight them, but with no weapons, were shooting blanks.
 
Oh, there is WAY worse out there. But with people instead of animals. The perversion of the human mind knows no bounds. Think of the absolutely most disgusting, dehumanizing acts you can think of. Someone has done it already plus more.














and they have a website that costs you $40.00 just to see what they are doing.
 
What you don't seem to be able to grasp Wally is that is was THEY (PETA or a similar group) that did THIS (the video).

THIS -- the video -- would NEVER have been done without THEM. THEY found a guy willing to do what they wanted for a fee and paid him to do it. He wouldn't have done it for s**ts and giggles because it did not make monetary sense.

THEY contracted a hit. In most societies legal systems that makes THEM more culpable than the person they contracted. THEY tortured by proxy and that makes THEM worse than the guy who did the cutting.

The video is sick. The guy who cut is sick. The people who paid him to do it for their cause's gain are evil.

Ok, new way of phrasing what I'm trying to say. The public sees this, regardless of who did it, and think: Evil people killing animals. Hunters happen to kill animals, and are lumped in too.

What I'm not conveying properly is that I'm not argueing if it's right to support peta or fight them etc etc etc, I'm saying that they have much more powerful propaganda (regardless of where it came from) to use for their cause. We need to find a way to get our word out there just as powerfully, like I said before, by doing an outward exposure of it, educating the public to proper hunting techniques, the reality of eating meat etc.

I agree with you that what peta did is absolutely intolerable. I don't support peta either, but in not supporting peta I don't believe it's a good idea to do as we are currently doing and simply polarise against them and say everything they say is illegitimate and wrong. ---wait, avoid the flaming for a second --- I say this because much of what is at the very basis of their agenda, before the propaganda, radicallism etc is introduced, is the belief that animal cruelty is wrong. While all people have varying degrees of acceptance of what constitutes cruelty, it is almost universal that your every day person will agree with the statement that "being cruel to an animal is bad" - to put it very simply.

By aligning directly against peta, no matter how effed up and insane they are, we therefore align directly against the idea that animal cruelty is wrong; supporting their claims that hunting is evil, wrong, should be abolished, etc etc etc.

Does what I'm saying make sense? I realise I'm not actually on the same tangent as the majority of the arguements on this thread, but I'm hoping that it's at least introducing some space for discussion that can lead to better ways of reintroducing hunting and firearms back into acceptable society.
 
Don't forget to support China by shopping at Walmart and buying Norinco!

TDC

Boycott them for a host of other issues (human rights, environment, etc.), not this one.

This is not a Chinese issue but an AR propaganda issue.

Want to make a difference? Find out which companies finance these AR groups and publicly boycott them.
 
Boycott them for a host of other issues (human rights, environment, etc.), not this one.

This is not a Chinese issue but an AR propaganda issue.

Want to make a difference? Find out which companies finance these AR groups and publicly boycott them.

I agree, there are many more issues and more groups/corporations to boycott along with those mentioned above. I strive to buy nothing made in the far east.

TDC
 
The head of PETA Miss #####, said...."if the cure for aids is found by testing on one animal, it is not worth it"

The best is the hypocracy. The second or third in command is a diabetic who uses insulin. animal tested, but she claims that in her case it's ok.

They are scammers. they show up in poor towns or villages. Wave a few thousand dollars at a guy who hasn't seen a hundred in a month and say they'll black out his face so no one knows who he is.
They're just awful.
 
human race .......

Very disturbing video to look at, I 've read some articles about it but seeing it is something else, I just can't get some of it out of my head right now .... I won't look at it again that's for sure..
 
Sounds like something I'd rather not watch. I recall a video from 6 or 7 years back that I came across. It was called "the unknown soldier". Not knowing what I was about to watch, and under the impression that it was live footage (to this day I have no idea whether or not it was), I watched it....and had difficulty sleeping many nights. The anger it brought upon me was astounding..."who could do such a thing?? What coward would subject a living being to such an aweful demise? IF I WOULD'VE BEEN THERE!!!" kind of anger. I suspect that this video would lend to more sleepless nights, and a rise in BP. I'll pass, and take all of your word for it. And yes, lots of interesting facts about PETA brought up here....interesting indeed.
 
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What you don't seem to be able to grasp Wally is that is was THEY (PETA or a similar group) that did THIS (the video).

THIS -- the video -- would NEVER have been done without THEM. THEY found a guy willing to do what they wanted for a fee and paid him to do it. He wouldn't have done it for s**ts and giggles because it did not make monetary sense.

THEY contracted a hit. In most societies legal systems that makes THEM more culpable than the person they contracted. THEY tortured by proxy and that makes THEM worse than the guy who did the cutting.

The video is sick. The guy who cut is sick. The people who paid him to do it for their cause's gain are evil.

Wow! PETA paying to have this done?:confused: Talk about hypocrisy! :mad: These PETA folks are serious nut jobs!
 
Save some of your energy fellas for the issues that we have on our own soil.

Cruelty to animals is a problem in Canada as well.

I watched the video and its brutal staged or not. Our energies would be better used ignoring PETA and acting on the issues that are within our reach.
 
That was quite gruesome. Like many other internet videos that I've watched, I wish I could get that image out of my head. I think it would be a lot more work to skin an animal alive than at least finishing it off properly. I'm sure it was either a PETA video or someone who really enjoys torturing an animal. Someone should nail that guys weiner to the floor, set the room on fire and give him a knife.
 
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