that was hard to watch... i couldn't finish it i have no problem living on the sustenance offered by animal protein they are a food source... but ethically they should be killed quickly and mercifully... they are living creatures that feel pain and if any1 thinks that they do not then y animals strugle and cry out just like humans when such malevolent brutality is committed against them
Cruel video from China
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Wow, that poor b@stard skinned alive and left on a pile of dead bodies.
Is there any article or court decision stating that the above video is a fraud?
Is there any article or court decision stating that the above video is a fraud?
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Give the BASTARD a piano string instead of a knife
Then he'll have time to think while cutting.
rustysdream
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PETA paid the guy $1 and he was happy to skin anything alive all day.
$ 1 for us doesn't even buy a beer in Canada. In that part of China, a $ 1 will probably feed a family of four for a month. Who knows how much money was given to encourage skinning these animals alive for the film crew. Spread a few more dollars around and these simple folks will do what you ask. It's called survival. The Chinese guy was probably thinking that these foreigners with the cameras wanting them to to this are some seriously fu*ked in the head people...with the animals being used a pawns in this game.
Then Peta takes this scripted video and uses it for political gain. Yet they kill how many animals a year in their own facilities? Those who think they are the most morally righteous are actually the most dangerous folks. Just look at the gun antis.....
Then Peta takes this scripted video and uses it for political gain. Yet they kill how many animals a year in their own facilities? Those who think they are the most morally righteous are actually the most dangerous folks. Just look at the gun antis.....
Northman999
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I couldn't watch the whole thing; PETA video or not. I'd much rather see a follow up video where everyone involved in that level of animal cruelty meets their own end in the same way as they dealt with the animals.
How soon people forget the media propaganda the animal rights ding dongs did with the seal hunt and swayed public opinion their way.
Who could ever forget the images of those brutes from the east coast repeatedly bashing those cute and cuddly seal pups to a bloody pulp on the pure white snow.
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Who could ever forget the images of those brutes from the east coast repeatedly bashing those cute and cuddly seal pups to a bloody pulp on the pure white snow.
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It's amazing that while it's generally accepted nowadays that Hitler ordered the burning of the Reichstag to galvanize already xenophobic public opinion in NSDAP Germany, but people in the general public are so resistant to the idea that PETA is willing to do something 100% analogous.
This video is staged, and it's far from "undercover"; even a brief look at the positioning of the camera and the clarity of the footage makes that much plainly clear.
To my mind, those who staged it and anyone who supports them should be subjected to the medieval punishment of in vivo flaying. Just desserts indeed.
-M
i'm a trapper and i can assure all of you that this is not how we operate. Its been said before on this thread, our traps are certified and humane, we are harvesters, we farm the bush land. I would bet a years salary that most of the trappers I know do more to give back to the environment than most members of PETA.
That video is propaganda, nothing more. There are parts of the world where things like that happen to people. Life, huiman or animal is not valued the same all over the world.
That video is propaganda, nothing more. There are parts of the world where things like that happen to people. Life, huiman or animal is not valued the same all over the world.
don't forget the animals are weak, and have not been fed at all.
That raises costs, of course.
don't forget the animals are weak, and have not been fed at all.
That raises costs, of course.
If you don't feed an animal, the quality of its fur will suffer a lot.
Any how, PETA has a very bad reputation of stagging videos.
BTW, stagging such a video is easy, you buy some pets from a local store and pay somebody skin them. It can be shot in Canada too but we all know nobody do that kind of things here. So they put it in China, the big evil country.....
I bet there are some local Chinese guys are wondering why some westerners come to their village and pay money to do such ugly thing.....
Here's the reason we need agencies like the Humane Society, and perhaps even PETA.
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Sick Cow Video Shocks Slaughterhouse Prez
After Seeing Video, Slaughterhouse Boss Admits Sick Cows Used for Beef
By VIJA UDENANS
WASHINGTON, March 12, 2008—
The president of the slaughterhouse that caused the nation's largest meat recall went before Congress today with a prepared statement, but a video of the horrific treatment of cattle at the plant took his words away.
Before Westland Hallmark Meat Company president Steve Mendell could begin his testimony to the Energy and Commerce congressional oversight sub-committee, a U.S. Humane Society video of downer dairy cattle being abused at the slaughterhouse was played.
After seeing the video, Mendell was forced to back off some of his prepared testimony and he admitted that cows that were too sick to stand or walk were forced into our nation's food supply from his plant in Southern California. Two shocking videos shot by an undercover operative showed cows being pushed, prodded, chained, pulled by a leg and run over by the forklift. The cattle were shocked, had water shot up their noses and were pushed into the box where they would be killed.
When the Humane Society released the videos earlier this year, it sparked a Department of Agriculture investigation of the slaughterhouse, and the government eventually ordered the recall of 143 million tons of beef.
The playing of the video at the subcommittee hearing raised the stakes for Mendell. It was no longer just a case of inhumane treatment, which he had admitted. The issue was now food safety, because two of the downer cows on the video had entered the food system.
"Has your company ever slaughtered or killed a downer cow?" sub-committee chairman Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., asked.
"I never thought we did," Mendell replied quietly.
He maintained that he had seen one of the Humane Society videos, but not a second one, which was shown today at the hearing. He said the USDA had never shown it to him. "Would the USDA have discovered this without the Humane Society?" Stupak asked USDA representative Dr. Richard Raymond.
"I'd like to say yes, but no," Raymond said. [emphasis mine]
The Humane Society video gave the department the irrefutable evidence needed to proceed with the investigation and to recommend that Westland recall the beef. Downer cows, non-ambulatory cattle, are not allowed into the U.S. food supply, according to USDA rules, because it is uncertain whether their illness is internal or external and because of concerns about mad cow disease.
Raymond testified that the incubation period for mad cow disease is about 13 years, but the likelihood of risk is "vanishing small." When asked what he meant by that, he replied, "It implies somewhere one in 10 million." The Westland Hallmark meat plant, whose 143 million pounds of beef have been recalled, is now closed and unlikely to open.
"Our company is ruined," Mendell said. "We cannot continue. Approximately 220 company employees have lost their jobs."
His prepared testimony stated that he and his family have been receiving threats wishing him a death similar to the fate suffered by the cows at the company's slaughterhouse.
Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures
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Sick Cow Video Shocks Slaughterhouse Prez
After Seeing Video, Slaughterhouse Boss Admits Sick Cows Used for Beef
By VIJA UDENANS
WASHINGTON, March 12, 2008—
The president of the slaughterhouse that caused the nation's largest meat recall went before Congress today with a prepared statement, but a video of the horrific treatment of cattle at the plant took his words away.
Before Westland Hallmark Meat Company president Steve Mendell could begin his testimony to the Energy and Commerce congressional oversight sub-committee, a U.S. Humane Society video of downer dairy cattle being abused at the slaughterhouse was played.
After seeing the video, Mendell was forced to back off some of his prepared testimony and he admitted that cows that were too sick to stand or walk were forced into our nation's food supply from his plant in Southern California. Two shocking videos shot by an undercover operative showed cows being pushed, prodded, chained, pulled by a leg and run over by the forklift. The cattle were shocked, had water shot up their noses and were pushed into the box where they would be killed.
When the Humane Society released the videos earlier this year, it sparked a Department of Agriculture investigation of the slaughterhouse, and the government eventually ordered the recall of 143 million tons of beef.
The playing of the video at the subcommittee hearing raised the stakes for Mendell. It was no longer just a case of inhumane treatment, which he had admitted. The issue was now food safety, because two of the downer cows on the video had entered the food system.
"Has your company ever slaughtered or killed a downer cow?" sub-committee chairman Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., asked.
"I never thought we did," Mendell replied quietly.
He maintained that he had seen one of the Humane Society videos, but not a second one, which was shown today at the hearing. He said the USDA had never shown it to him. "Would the USDA have discovered this without the Humane Society?" Stupak asked USDA representative Dr. Richard Raymond.
"I'd like to say yes, but no," Raymond said. [emphasis mine]
The Humane Society video gave the department the irrefutable evidence needed to proceed with the investigation and to recommend that Westland recall the beef. Downer cows, non-ambulatory cattle, are not allowed into the U.S. food supply, according to USDA rules, because it is uncertain whether their illness is internal or external and because of concerns about mad cow disease.
Raymond testified that the incubation period for mad cow disease is about 13 years, but the likelihood of risk is "vanishing small." When asked what he meant by that, he replied, "It implies somewhere one in 10 million." The Westland Hallmark meat plant, whose 143 million pounds of beef have been recalled, is now closed and unlikely to open.
"Our company is ruined," Mendell said. "We cannot continue. Approximately 220 company employees have lost their jobs."
His prepared testimony stated that he and his family have been receiving threats wishing him a death similar to the fate suffered by the cows at the company's slaughterhouse.
Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures
Hoo boy! Where to start when such an intarded opening remark kills any validity of what might have followed?
I'm tired from fighting the puppy threads all week. Any takers?
You're right. We DO need PETA and these other bleeding heart misinformed organizations to expose the virtually non-existent risk to humans from BSE. Creutzfeld-Jacob's Disease (a.k.a. variant CJD) is the human equivalent, and is one of the rarest forms of neuropathic disease in existence.
Furthermore, the BSE prion thought to be responsible for variant CJD is in highest concentration in the nervous tissue of affected animals - brain, spinal cord, geminal ganglia. NONE of which are eaten in North America, and NONE of which are offered for human sale.
I agree that recycling of 'value added' animal offal as a protein supplement - shown to concentrate the BSE prion from generation to generation, as it's extremely stable in its prion-fold state - is a bad idea for the animal population. That said, people need to wake up and realize that you're hundreds of times more likely to be struck by lightning than to suffer variant CJD as a result of eating tainted beef or mutton (Scrapie being the related prion disease in sheep).
-M
Furthermore, the BSE prion thought to be responsible for variant CJD is in highest concentration in the nervous tissue of affected animals - brain, spinal cord, geminal ganglia. NONE of which are eaten in North America, and NONE of which are offered for human sale.
I agree that recycling of 'value added' animal offal as a protein supplement - shown to concentrate the BSE prion from generation to generation, as it's extremely stable in its prion-fold state - is a bad idea for the animal population. That said, people need to wake up and realize that you're hundreds of times more likely to be struck by lightning than to suffer variant CJD as a result of eating tainted beef or mutton (Scrapie being the related prion disease in sheep).
-M
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- southern saskatchewan
Who wears dog fur coats?
sjemac and Doc M neglected to read the court case, and may indeed enjoy dining on sick and diseased beef at length, while giving corporate farmers carte blanche to raise steer as they please.
Please don't hold them personally responsible for their comments. They do mean well.
Save the healthy beef for myself.
Please don't hold them personally responsible for their comments. They do mean well.
Save the healthy beef for myself.
You miss the point sean. Saying we need HSUS and PETA because they uncovered this is akin to saying that we need pedophiles because once upon a time one was scouting out the playground and caught a murder on film.
Even complete douche bags occasionally inadvertently do good. Doesn't mean they're welcome in my home.
Holy hell, think before typing. Next you'll be condoning gun control and rubbing up to Cukier and her zealots because they exposed that a gun was used to kill a person. If stories like this disturb you it should be because the checks and balances within the system failed. Where is the federal inspector whose job it is to inspect all downers prior to off loading and throughout the processing? Claiming groups like HSUS and Peta are necessary or even credible is absurd. These organizations both are absolutely opposed to hunting and are actively working towards that end. Support either and you support an end to hunting!
