Cruel video from China

2005: The jury is still out on this one, but the evidence is highly suspect. Video purporting to show fur production in China is distributed early in 2005 by an animal rights group, Swiss Animal Protection Organization. By Spring of the same year, the footage is being distributed by North American animal rights groups with additional scenes added.Highly edited, the video shown in the U.S. includes footage of a fox farm where a dog is heard barking excitedly, a shot of a highly agitated fox (perhaps offered food) surrounded by calm foxes, plus mink on a farm illustrating distressed behavior, perhaps due to unusual activity on the farm out of camera range.

The video includes clips of foxes and raccoon dogs (tanuki), both animals which are also taken from the wild, in a marketplace setting. One man appears wearing a butcher's apron as he quickly kills a raccoon dog. However, another man, wearing street clothes (black leather jacket and pleated black pants) brutally skins alive a raccoon dog that he has hung on the back of a truck (license plate removed). The animal tries to bite the man and struggles aggressively, making the process extremely difficult.

The camera comes in close on a skinned, but still moving animal on a pile of animal carcasses. While the moving animal is covered in blood, showing its heart was pumping during the process, the animals beneath it are clean, as they would be if skinned while dead, which, of course, is the standard, normal procedure and the ONLY acceptable one by humane standards.

Another scene shows a man wearing tattered shoes, hitting a fox on the head with a knife, temporarily stunning but not killing it. He then struggles to skin the obviously alive, moving animal, alternating with beating it with the knife. The animal struggles so much as to make the job impossible, and a shot is seen of the man's shoes on the animal's head.

It is nonsensical to suggest that skinning an animal alive is normal practice since even this film of inhumane behavior proves this process to be difficult and dangerous, and furthermore the pulse of the living animal would cause extensive bleeding and damage to the fur. It is therefore highly likely that these scenes were staged.

The fur industry in Europe requested the original unedited footage from the Swiss animal rights group and was refused. The China Fur Commission and China Leather Industry Association challenged the authenticity of the material, saying: "Pictures showing animals being skinned alive are obviously plotted. All those with common sense would not choose this slaughter method to attain fur." The government of Suning County, Hebei Province also issued a statement outlining welfare practices on its fur farms, calling the alleged practice of skinning animals alive "unimaginable", and urging Swiss Animal Protection Organization to "respect the truth".

The media and general public should be highly suspect of this footage and work with the fur industry to determine the true story behind its production. (See Media wary of latest shock video, FCUSA commentary, May 25, 2005.)
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i found this on http://www.furcommission.com/news/newsC7.htm
this web site has a ton notes on films that have been proven fake/staged/ and taken to court with the flimer's being charged. or ppl who have skiped the country befor being arrested
 
Lifting a cow with a forklift seems as logical as any other way shy a rubber tire hoe.

Anyone have any ideas how to get a sick cow to stand up that can't. I've watched how well an electric cattle prod works on a mighty stubborn bull, but can't see how that would motivate a sick cow who can't get up.

That hummer had to weigh over 750 lbs.

Seems to me if you have to lift it with a forklift just to get it to stand up so you can get it to the slaugher house, a bullet would fit the bill first and then a one way trip to the bear bait.
 
How does something that is being done in China relate to what is done in our country? In China people are still executed for robbery in the town square after a 5 minute trial. In China the majority of the population eats rat, snake and dog regularly (I know, I've been there and seen it. My parents used to live and work in China, although they are not Chinese, and my brother speaks Mandarin and Cantonese although he is NOT Chinese either).

So why isn't PETA freaked out about the barbaric Chinese and why are they not picketing all Chinese consulates? Or sending "human PETA shields" over to China to rally for these animals? Because that is not what they care about. All they care about is financing from bleeding heart liberal weinies and gullible people, and about making all of us in North America to feel guilty for being Americans. Sorry, I don't buy into it.

So the Chinese are scumbags, cruel and ignorant. So what! They're commies....what do you expect!!!
 
seancanada said:
Please don't hold them personally responsible for their comments. They do mean well.

Save the healthy beef for myself.
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You can save the condescending bulls**t for yourself, thank you very much.

I'm not arguing that food safety is a top priority - what I'm saying is that I don't condone a single thing that PETA or HSUS have ever done in order to bring these issues to the forefront. Simply because they managed to uncover a single instance of trouble in an abbatoir doesn't mean they've actually done anything productive about it. The abbatoir has been closed because of radical knee-jerk reaction, over 200 people are now jobless, 143 million tons of beef were recalled (most of which had already been eaten) at HUGE expense, and now the next fly-by-night operation from Mexico or Brazil gets to chomp at the bit with a bid for stock replacement.

You think food safety standards for IMMEDIATE FATALITY HAZARDS like enteropathogenic and enterohaemorrhagic E. coli (EPEC and EHEC; specifically the 0157:H7 serovar), Enterococcus faecalis, and spontaneous abortion hazards like Listeria monocytogenes are the same in Mexico and Brazil as they are here in Canada or the US? You think that every last bit of that beef is surveyed the way it is up here? You think they don't use downer animals?

'Save the healthy beef' for yourself indeed. I buy 100% Alberta Beef and I'm DAMN proud of it.

-M
 
that is the sickest sh*t ive ever seen in my life, those ####en wierd people!!!
we should go there and show them how it feels!
 
280_ACKLEY said:
Name one advantage to skinning a writhing beast that is trying to bite you?
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This video came up in discussion at work the other day.The comment was that the endorfins the dog releases as it is being skinned tenderizes the meat so it is easier to eat.
I can't comment for myself as I have'nt watched the video.RB
 
WOW That was some brutal ####... At least kill the thing.. staged or not... That is some twisted ####, that's in the same league as cooking people in ovens. Even if they staged it, who in the hell does that????? Once the dog came up i turned it off, i have 2 dogs and i couldn't watch!!!
 
seancanada said:
sjemac and Doc M neglected to read the court case, and may indeed enjoy dining on sick and diseased beef at length, while giving corporate farmers carte blanche to raise steer as they please.

Please don't hold them personally responsible for their comments. They do mean well.

Save the healthy beef for myself.
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If they raise beef they're ranchers. Get your facts straight dumbass.
 
I wouldn't put it past PETA to setup that video and then release it. I can see them paying some sick bastard to do that to an animal because "the means justifies the end" in their minds. This will enrage people and get them to donate and make them act. You know how they still keep showing pictures of snow white seal pups being clubbed? Hasn't happened in years. They don't let facts get in the way of their agenda.
 
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