CSA vz. 58 questions?

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Hey guys, i recently sold one of my guns, and now my safe feels empty and barren, so to keep my gun safe happy i plan to go out and buy another rifle. i'm debating nutting up and buying vz. 58 but i have a few concerns having only ever held one once and never shot one.

1. how accurate can it be? is it easy to accurize, or is it sensitive to ammo?
2. the operating system seems to be a really expensive SKS system, this isnt a bad thing i just want to know if im better off sinking the 1000$ into an sks to obtain pretty much the same thing
3. would anyone reccomend the 5.56 chambered models? i already have a semi in 7.62x51 and x39 but nothing in 5.56

i think thats the jist of what i want to know, i'd love to hear user experience good, bad or indifferent, any help is greatly appreciated :)

have a nice day everyone.
 
save ur money and go get urself a ACR or XCR...and if u really want to buy one i will sell u mine. its got the full fab defence overhaul. total cost 1600....u can have it for 1000
 
1. 3-4 moa with surplus, 2 moa or so with commercial. Handloading is always the best way to squeeze accuracy. Accurizing isn't really an option.
2. The operating system is a simplified version of the SKS with a one piece gas piston, far fewer parts and quicker takedown/easier cleaning. The bolt assembly has one more major component but is no better or worse than the SKS for takedown/cleaning. Sinking $1000 into an SKS will never get you close to an VZ. Period. You will end up selling it off for 30-40% of what you paid.
3. The 5.56 models have harder to find mags but owners seem happy however ammo is more expensive. That one is up to you.

I've owned quite a few SKS's and VZ's. I'll take the VZ over an SKS any day. I like the SKS as a milsurp, as it came from the factory. Trying to dress it up leaves you with something like a miled out, rustbucket import with a rice pipe, hideous spoiler, giant tach with massive shift light and a 1/4 mile time of 19 seconds. The VZ is a factory stock Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, whatever you prefer. Which would you rather spend the same amount of money on?
tikka7mm-08 said:
Hey guys, i recently sold one of my guns, and now my safe feels empty and barren, so to keep my gun safe happy i plan to go out and buy another rifle. i'm debating nutting up and buying vz. 58 but i have a few concerns having only ever held one once and never shot one.

1. how accurate can it be? is it easy to accurize, or is it sensitive to ammo?
2. the operating system seems to be a really expensive SKS system, this isnt a bad thing i just want to know if im better off sinking the 1000$ into an sks to obtain pretty much the same thing
3. would anyone reccomend the 5.56 chambered models? i already have a semi in 7.62x51 and x39 but nothing in 5.56

i think thats the jist of what i want to know, i'd love to hear user experience good, bad or indifferent, any help is greatly appreciated :)

have a nice day everyone.
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Thanks everyone for the replies, I definitely think I need to go and hold one at my LGS. BTW I was definitely joking when I said put that money in an SKS, like super nova said, it'd just be a rusted out rice rocket haha couldn't have said it better myself. I heard from an employee at my LGS a year ago that he was hitting 1-2in groups at 100yds with the 5.56 models, no mods, anybody else see that kind of accuracy?
 
I have the Vz 58 in 5.56. It had the over gas issue but sent it in for warranty repair, had it back in about 2 weeks time, and the gun has been flawless ever since. Norinco 5.56 is good for making noise or shooting dirt. Then just use Federal Eagle .223 for accuracy testing. The 5.56 Vz 58 is more accurate than the 7.62x39 Vz but not by much more. Mine came with clear plastic magazines. I wish there were some aluminum magazines that look just like the 7.62x39 magazines.
 
There is also the option of the AR magwell adapter in the 5.56 version which can be found on the cheap. Not sure if they work with the Beowulf mags, but that would be cool.
Much more expensive for the 7.62x39 magwell adapter kit and as far as I am aware it can only utilize the 7.62x39 XCR magazines.

Something to think about if you want to take it a little bit further.
 
1. I have two SKS's and my vz.58 is a lot more accurate
2. Operating system is a short stroke piston with no handgaurd tube. Very different then the SKS.
3. I had the 5.56 vz.58 and traded it in for the original 7.62. The 5.56 has issues with over pressure. I had to send it to movie armaments for warranty work. Their service was great but who wants to be gauranteed to have good warranty service with a rifle out of the box. Buy 5.56 and you are gauranteed to experience CSA's great warranty service!

Best to stick with the chambering that put it on the map

If you want to shoot a 5.56/.223 get an AR. Why spend $1,000 on an SKS to only realize you liked it like the commies made it and wasted your money.

In my opinion if you want to shoot 7.62 you can't go wrong with the vz.58, much much lighter then the SKS, easier to clean, and more accurate for sure...
 
I have the VZ 58 in 5.56 and I quite like it so far, although I haven't put it through accuracy testing yet. I have just used the iron sights for general plinking, 200 rounds through and no malfunctions so far. The only thing I don't like about it is how it wrecks brass; it ejects brass so hard it slams it up against the stripper clip lips enough to ding them (in my opinion) beyond repair. I bought the high rise scope mount for it. I wish I had known the low mount was coming out, but at least I can still see my irons. I will be slapping a red dot to it soon enough.
 
If your VZ is really hard ejecting, it is likely overgassed. Is it throwing spent shells ten feet in the air kind of thing?

Movie Arms will fix that right up for you if you send it in. If it is indeed overgassed, it will likely eventually crack the bolt.
 
diablo_man said:
If your VZ is really hard ejecting, it is likely overgassed. Is it throwing spent shells ten feet in the air kind of thing?

Movie Arms will fix that right up for you if you send it in. If it is indeed overgassed, it will likely eventually crack the bolt.
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thanks for the info, I will look into that.
 
supernova said:
1. 3-4 moa with surplus, 2 moa or so with commercial. Handloading is always the best way to squeeze accuracy. Accurizing isn't really an option.
2. The operating system is a simplified version of the SKS with a one piece gas piston, far fewer parts and quicker takedown/easier cleaning. The bolt assembly has one more major component but is no better or worse than the SKS for takedown/cleaning. Sinking $1000 into an SKS will never get you close to an VZ. Period. You will end up selling it off for 30-40% of what you paid.
3. The 5.56 models have harder to find mags but owners seem happy however ammo is more expensive. That one is up to you.

I've owned quite a few SKS's and VZ's. I'll take the VZ over an SKS any day. I like the SKS as a milsurp, as it came from the factory. Trying to dress it up leaves you with something like a miled out, rustbucket import with a rice pipe, hideous spoiler, giant tach with massive shift light and a 1/4 mile time of 19 seconds. The VZ is a factory stock Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, whatever you prefer. Which would you rather spend the same amount of money on?
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I disagree that it's a simplified version of the SKS system. It's quite different, the only thing it shares in common is the short stroke gas piston. The bolt and trigger assembly are completely different. They look like they're similar because they both share a very open ejection port. The VZ-58 uses a linear hammer and locking block that pivots on the bolt, while the SKS uses a more conventional rotating hammer and tilting bolt. The trigger group is assembled in to the receiver of the VZ-58, while the SKS has a removable trigger group. The systems are really different, and share about as much with each other as they do with the AK.
 
diablo_man said:
If your VZ is really hard ejecting, it is likely overgassed. Is it throwing spent shells ten feet in the air kind of thing?

Movie Arms will fix that right up for you if you send it in. If it is indeed overgassed, it will likely eventually crack the bolt.
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Completely unnecessary and a waste of money. It is not overgassed. It is gassed exactly as much as it was designed to be. Throwing casings way out there is what its designed to do, in order to maintain reliability in adverse conditions.
 
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