CSA VZ.61 Skorpion in .22LR rimfire

[MikeD81]

Personally I don't care if its restricted or not since u would only ever shoot it at a range anyway
Would be sweet to have it in .22 to avoid magazine cap laws

 

[prince albert ar15]

Need one

 

[Crewman6]

Very interested

 

[MACH]

Definitely interested in a conversion kit for my newly acquired 380 skorp; needs extra mags right away though, the plastic CSA waffle ones that came with mine don't seem like they will hold up very well. (NS, if you see this: any 380 mags available now? If not any coming?)

 

[Wildbore]

Weird, I didn't know that... but since this is semi-auto and not leaver/bolt then maybe it wouldn't apply?

“restricted firearm” means

(a) a handgun that is not a prohibited firearm,

(b) a firearm that

(i) is not a prohibited firearm,

(ii) has a barrel less than 470 mm in length, and

(iii) is capable of discharging centre-fire ammunition in a semi-automatic manner,

(c) a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise.

It appears that, unless it's considered a handgun, you could just put the .22 kit in and it should NO LONGER BE RESTRICTED. In part b, it needs to meet ALL THREE conditions to be considered restricted. The key question is how one would interpret "capable of" in part b(iii). Is it still capable of shooting centre-fire ammunition, if a .22 kit has been inserted. Does capable of mean it can be converted back?

Section (c) MIGHT be a problem as it can fire when reduced by folding, but a simple tac weld to make the stock non-folding should solve that problem.

I'd say if you could get it re-verified and have the REGISTRAR cancel your restricted registration certificate, it would be an indication that you are indeed in possession of a NON-RESTRICTED firearm.

 

[Stray03]

Personally I don't care if its restricted or not since u would only ever shoot it at a range anyway
Would be sweet to have it in .22 to avoid magazine cap laws

If these were non restricted i sure as hell wouldnt go near a shooting range. Only problem with my m84 is that im forced to shoot it at a range. Id rock it with a wood stock and a long barrel if it let me shoot it at my farm.

 

[cz52]

So can they be ordered from anywhere yet?

 

[Bare]

Something like this

And my crazy imagination AR-Skorp in .17 would be awesome

I'll take two of picture number 3. You my friend should be a gun designer. That thing is sweet.

 

[K-Roc]

^^^ Thats awesome!

 

[bfiles]

So can they be ordered from anywhere yet?

Not that I have seen yet. But hopefully soon time. Or after Oct 19th!?!?!!?

 

[ezkmo]

Thay bottom pic looks awesome.

Put a little vert grip on it and G2G

Here you go

 

[pc9]

Here you go

I will take 2 please

 

[bfiles]

Can anyone tell me if this needs to be submitted for an FRT # or is it good to go right away?

 

[twyeh]

If conversion kit, its a direct drop in. Non regulated part.
If unit is sold as a rimfire firearm. Most likely.
I doubt CSA have plans to produce a fixed stock rimfire rifle that meets our non restricted status. But you never know. They have made straight pull rifles for UK.
To get this in faster would be selling it as a conversion kit, and is also bundled with the centerfire Skorpions.
Then again, this all depends on how enthusiastic North Sylva wants our money to make the orders happen.

 

[cz52]

So just to clarify...not available yet(as of Oct 8), no FRT and no idea if there will be non restricted versions...

 

[bfiles]

^^^ pretty much sums it up and still nothing from NS about it.

 

[Picatinny]

I would prefer to have a fixed stock, non-restricted model that is 26" long.

 

[fenceline]

Totally in for a conversion kit. And an extra upper like the photoshop version. That thing is sick!

 

[Pistolwhiptricks]

Totally in for a conversion kit. And an extra upper like the photoshop version. That thing is sick!

+1. I think the photoshop version would sell like hotcakes.

 

[fenceline]

It appears that, unless it's considered a handgun, you could just put the .22 kit in and it should NO LONGER BE RESTRICTED. In part b, it needs to meet ALL THREE conditions to be considered restricted. The key question is how one would interpret "capable of" in part b(iii). Is it still capable of shooting centre-fire ammunition, if a .22 kit has been inserted. Does capable of mean it can be converted back?

Section (c) MIGHT be a problem as it can fire when reduced by folding, but a simple tac weld to make the stock non-folding should solve that problem.

I'd say if you could get it re-verified and have the REGISTRAR cancel your restricted registration certificate, it would be an indication that you are indeed in possession of a NON-RESTRICTED firearm.

Its a semi auto rifle. Semi auto rifle rules regarding barrel length and overall length apply.

If it was a pistol, the Skorpion would be prohibited by OIC. Don't remove your stock.