CSA VZ58 - Does anyone like their new .223?

I got a .223 one, 1000s of rounds through it, had it for a few years now. Not a single failure. I use the orignal plastic mags, work perfectly fine. I feel more confident in it, then my AR or any other firearm I have.
 
Rock$tar said:
I got a .223 one, 1000s of rounds through it, had it for a few years now. Not a single failure. I use the orignal plastic mags, work perfectly fine. I feel more confident in it, then my AR or any other firearm I have.
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do you have a Tavor? I'm interested in a comparison.
 
superlative said:
do you have a Tavor? I'm interested in a comparison.
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Oh! I do! I do! Pick me!

The Tavor is better balanced, has less available upgrades, but also needs less upgrades. Its easier to mount optics on, but twice as expensive.

The Vz in .223 can be converted to accept AR-15 magazines, and optics, and all kinds of other fun stuff. They're a project that you can build out.

With a Tavor: all you really need is optics and ammo.

Wanna see some size comparisons?

7.5" Vz58 next to an 18.5" Tavor

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My old 18.5" 7.62 with the stock folded next to the Tavor

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The current 18.5" vz58 unfolded next to a 14" fabarm

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You end up with a different shooting style between them of course. Vz58s are built like a traditional rifle so you can magwell grip, straight arm grip, or costa-monkey-claw if you so desire.

Tavors . . . well you hold them like a Tavor . . .
 
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TV-PressPass said:
Oh! I do! I do! Pick me!

The Tavor is better balanced, has less available upgrades, but also needs less upgrades. Its easier to mount optics on, but twice as expensive.

The Vz in .223 can be converted to accept AR-15 magazines, and optics, and all kinds of other fun stuff. They're a project that you can build out.

With a Tavor: all you really need is optics and ammo.

Wanna see some size comparisons?


You end up with a different shooting style between them of course. Vz58s are built like a traditional rifle so you can magwell grip, straight arm grip, or costa-monkey-claw if you so desire.

Tavors . . . well you hold them like a Tavor . . .
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Thanks, but I suppose the VZ is easier to shoot prone with right?

and shooting down on one knee, the balance advantage is removed right?

You would normally shoot like this in real life combat:
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I can't imagine anyone just standing in a firefight.
 
Finally got word my .223 CSA Vz58 that didn't work is being replaced , I guess it was not repairable. Keeping fingers crossed I have better luck with this one
 
I just bought one with the 18.6" barrel a couple of weeks ago. Love the way it feels, even though I think it is a slight bit front heavy. Had it out to the range last week and all my shots at 100 yds were about 10-12 inches too high with a grouping of around 8 inches. I was using Norinco surplus 5.56, 55gr. I don't know if this is normal for the gun, but I am disappointed in the initial testing. My hunting rifles get a grouping of less than 2 inches when I shoot them the same way. I bought it after hearing that these guns were excellent, but that must have been the 7.62x39 version. I have to head out to the range this weekend with my sandbags and try it again to see what is really going on. Has anybody else had any similar issues with inaccuracy with their VZ58, .223's?
 
Comic Book Guy said:
I just bought one with the 18.6" barrel a couple of weeks ago. Love the way it feels, even though I think it is a slight bit front heavy. Had it out to the range last week and all my shots at 100 yds were about 10-12 inches too high with a grouping of around 8 inches. I was using Norinco surplus 5.56, 55gr. I don't know if this is normal for the gun, but I am disappointed in the initial testing. My hunting rifles get a grouping of less than 2 inches when I shoot them the same way. I bought it after hearing that these guns were excellent, but that must have been the 7.62x39 version. I have to head out to the range this weekend with my sandbags and try it again to see what is really going on. Has anybody else had any similar issues with inaccuracy with their VZ58, .223's?
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You really need to shoot Chinese surplus ammo with the same optics ( or lack of ) with your hunting rifles to make a fair comparison.

I have 2x Cz 858 and a .223 CSA. I can average 3" at 150 using a red dot with an 858, and can hit a 12" gong at 400 once in every three shots. I don't think there is much to chose between them accuracy wise.
 
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