CSA "vz61 Combat"... The Unboxing AND Range Day...

[fenceline]

Too much kick in the Makarov version? I would think it is a bit more. Really how much more kick can it have over a pistol in Mak?

 

[bfiles]

I'm sure the recoil is minimal still even in the 9 mak cal

 

[fenceline]

First post updated with range report.

 

[st1264]

I find these are quite accurate (my M84A)... hit very well out to 50M without significant drop. Once I get to 100M my eyes fail me and I'm not very good with irons.

OP can stretch it out and see that this machine performs well at 50M and probably further for those who are good with irons.

 

[The Kurgan]

Nice aquisition. Very jealous. And it's a shooter!

 

[fenceline]

I find these are quite accurate (my M84A)... hit very well out to 50M without significant drop. Once I get to 100M my eyes fail me and I'm not very good with irons.

OP can stretch it out and see that this machine performs well at 50M and probably further for those who are good with irons.

I'm sure at 50m it would hit the target. I don't think it would be a hand size group though.

I'll push the range out further then next time. The white box stuff had me more concerned about function than accuracy at first. Once that got sorted with the S&B stuff I was just having too much fun at 7 and 10 meters. I prefer shooting it collapsed than shouldered. Easier to pick up the sights.

 

[fenceline]

Oh, interesting feature about this gun.

If the safety is on and the action is closed, you cannot open open. If the safety is on and the action is open, you cannot close the action.

If the safety is off, open the action and activate the safety. It will hold the bolt open. Take the safety off, and the bolt stays open.

Yes you can activate the bolt hold open the same way as the vz58 from underneath, but this is another way one can activate the bolt hold open, and maintain a shooting grip in the gun with their strong hand.

 

[fenceline]

Just found out you can de-#### these too. Pull back on the charging handles until you feel tension, pull the trigger and ride the charging handle forward.

 

[Remote Six]

A little bit of a bump, but does the CSA come with the buffer inside the grip?

 

[Curtton]

I can see at Fencelines pic of the inside , the back stop bracket is incomplete so no neither CSA version comes with buffer .

A little bit of a bump, but does the CSA come with the buffer inside the grip?

 

[Remote Six]

I can see at Fencelines pic of the inside , the back stop bracket is incomplete so no neither CSA version comes with buffer .

I thought so but I just wanted to make sure. I was trying to decide between a CSA or Zastava, and it looks like I'll be going with Zastava.

 

[Curtton]

there are pros and cons to each of the manufacturer .

but if you want something more to the original then zastava would come closer bcos of the buffer and the ease of removing the wire stock .

I thought so but I just wanted to make sure. I was trying to decide between a CSA or Zastava, and it looks like I'll be going with Zastava.

 

[fenceline]

there are pros and cons to each of the manufacturer .

but if you want something more to the original then zastava would come closer bcos of the buffer and the ease of removing the wire stock .

Careful. That wire stock is the difference between restricted, and prohib. As stupid as that is.

 

[TV-PressPass]

Careful. That wire stock is the difference between restricted, and prohib. As stupid as that is.

So what other prohib pistols should we be fitting a stock on and importing?

 

[fenceline]

So what other prohib pistols should we be fitting a stock on and importing?

Well since the 'Skorpion Pistol' is prohibited, modifying a restricted Skorpion rifle into a pistol configuration would be less than intelligent. And it would appear the "stock" idea wouldn't work for anything else.

Former Prohibited Weapons Order No. 11
•The firearm of the design commonly known as the Skorpion Auto Pistol, and any variant or modified version of it.

We got lucky because the Liberals didn't know the rifle came first. And they wrote legislation with a bunch of fancy words that screwed up part of their gun grab plan.

 

[hollowedpoint]

So whats he point of the buffer anyways? Does it do something to the recoil? Hmmmm.

 

[fenceline]

So whats he point of the buffer anyways? Does it do something o the recoil? Hmmmm.

Controls the cyclic rate in full auto.

 

[skoal]

I need one of these for some reason might have to sell my p99 and get one.

 

[st1264]

I need one of these for some reason might have to sell my p99 and get one.

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They're fun as hell. Best reason to get one.

 

[Curtton]

nothing to be careful about , they know how easy to remove the wire stock , if they could prohib it they would have done it by now .

Careful. That wire stock is the difference between restricted, and prohib. As stupid as that is.