CSAAA Resignation, Ryan Harriman

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I'm still not sure what to make of this whole situation. It's really disappointing to see this fracture happening in our community, especially during this insane liberal government's tenure. All I can say is the csaaa is either on the take, had a fatal lapse in judgement, or got played hard by the libs. I get that some businesses need the cash, but the way this all played out has done a lot of damage to our side of the fight.

As a repeat customer I'm glad you're taking a stand and being transparent where you can.
 
Thanks for the info Ryan.

Unfortunately, you gotta follow the money.
Once they accepted the $700K, CSAAA started working for whomever cut that cheque.
No matter who benefits, they're compiling a database for the Liberals as the first phase of their confiscation plan.

To think that this would look any other way was incredibly naïve.
 
Regardless of all else, it is abundantly clear that these CSAAA creatures have acted in their own best interest to the obvious detriment of gun owners, generally. At best, they just legitimized their confiscations of our property.

I will act in my best interest.
All of these businesses are off my list. Perhaps the $700k they got from Mendicino will be worth it, perhaps not.
 
SFRC,

I don’t post on this forum often. I had to look back in my old email to see how long I have been a customer of yours. As it turns out, the better part of 12 years. If I had to guess in that period of time 80% or more of the firearm and ammo purchases I have made have been from your company. You always had competitive prices and had the things I wanted in stock when other dealers were sold out. I honestly didn’t even know you were the president of CSAAA and even after reading the news thing today, didn’t connect the dots until I saw your thread here.

I don’t think anyone is looking for a resignation although I applaud you for it. If it were me I would have used every last nickel the organization had left to lunch a defamation action.

I guess Mendichino can’t claim the CSAAA is behind him if it is dead in the water.

Just placed an order online. Was going to buy it somewhere else that was a couple bucks cheaper but whatever. Thanks.
 
Chemist said:
I know it sounds like the CSAAA was helping the gov't but that was never the intent of the CSAAA...although it looks terrible looking in from out outside. They wanted to help many struggling dealers who are on the brink of bankruptcy, have reduced in size, are behind on payments etc with getting rid of dead inventory so their businesses could survive.
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Who was involved in this decision? Was it a board thing?
 
CSAAA board should have known any deal struck with these Liberals would be abused by the same, and hated by the gun community... It is so hard to believe all these successful gun business owners made such a big mistake...

Or maybe it is not a mistake...!!! Maybe they knew what would happen and they decided not to care about the community, about the fight...

I feel backstabbed...!!!
 
I am very sad to see that the very businesses we trusted to have our back, are now selling out.. literally.

I understand it must be hard for your business… but to keep up the fight is what will win you over with your customers. This government is on the verge of falling and we don’t forget.

Good on you Ryan. The gov cant move forward if CSAAA collapses
 
aakoksal said:
CSAAA board should have known any deal struck with these Liberals would be abused by the same, and hated by the gun community... It is so hard to believe all these successful gun business owners made such a big mistake...

Or maybe it is not a mistake...!!! Maybe they knew what would happen and they decided not to care about the community, about the fight...

I feel backstabbed...!!!
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Would you rather all the good dealers get stuck with the bill for the kings decree and us be stuck with only cabe1as and cantire to buy guns and ammo from?

It’s really too bad there isn’t a channel for dealers to sell their stock of “prohibited firearms” into the us. At least to avoid having to see it all go under the steam roller. Because when that day comes you know they’re going to live stream that on all the mainstream news outlets, talk about “progress”, and follow it up with a interview with the public safety minister claiming that gun crime is now magically down by 89%. And that is the day that the fight will be lost
 
Steve_B said:
Thanks for the info Ryan.

Unfortunately, you gotta follow the money.
Once they accepted the $700K, CSAAA started working for whomever cut that cheque.
No matter who benefits, they're compiling a database for the Liberals as the first phase of their confiscation plan.

To think that this would look any other way was incredibly naïve.
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On a side note, the gov't hasn't given the CSAAA any money yet. They posted that earlier today.
 
Thank you for being a customer for some long...that's almost as long as we have sold guns. I'm not the CSAAA president, I'm just a board member at large. I did run against Wes for the presidents spot a few years ago but he won the election.

Ryan

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SFRC,

I don’t post on this forum often. I had to look back in my old email to see how long I have been a customer of yours. As it turns out, the better part of 12 years. If I had to guess in that period of time 80% or more of the firearm and ammo purchases I have made have been from your company. You always had competitive prices and had the things I wanted in stock when other dealers were sold out. I honestly didn’t even know you were the president of CSAAA and even after reading the news thing today, didn’t connect the dots until I saw your thread here.

I don’t think anyone is looking for a resignation although I applaud you for it. If it were me I would have used every last nickel the organization had left to lunch a defamation action.

I guess Mendichino can’t claim the CSAAA is behind him if it is dead in the water.

Just placed an order online. Was going to buy it somewhere else that was a couple bucks cheaper but whatever. Thanks.
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I remember reading that the CSAAA was planing this for a while. I think it was in one of their magazines or emails. I remember talking with the gun shop owner saying this will blow up in their faces.
 
In terms of whether what the CSAAA did being right or wrong if its presented clearly and without the little Marco slant I imagine it would be 50-50. I can see the point, that for a small dealer its better they survive. The Liberals want to destroy the industry, so this was an attempt to stop that.

However by allowing the Liberals to announce it first, they erred 100%. Major FAIL. The CSAAA should have announced what they were doing first, contacted the media first, got the truth out.

Let this be a warning to anyone. If you get in bed with the Liberals they will try to F you. No does not mean no with those pricks.

I think the CSAAA will suffer from their poor handling of the message. They may know a lot about selling guns, but they don't seem to know much about politics and communications.

I have been waiting all day to "hear from Ryan" before I made judgement. I am happy you cleared the air.
 
CaseyK said:
Very suspicious as others have mentioned. Doesn't smell right. Seems like damage control virtue signaling. Seems like you made a deal with the devil, saw some big $$$ and accepted the risk. you willingly went to the negotiating table with them (think about how that looks in itself, even just doing that merits immense scrutiny) and proceeded towards a deal. sold us out. multiple negotiations and discussions would have been had. I don't think you expected their public statement to out you so early. still not gonna get my business

you made a deal with the libs effecting our community behind our backs which could only have ever been perceived or ended up one way. a grand standing resignation at this point wont regain the communities trust writ large. SFRC will always be remembered as a contributor to this
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Imagine der fuhrer went on the news tomorrow morning and said effective immediately it is illegal for you to sell your house. Say your house is worth 500,000 or whatever you think it’s worth. They also say it is illegal to use it although you can keep until you die as long as you don’t try to sell it. Now you have to rent a house because you can’t afford the mortgage on owning 2. You don’t have enough money coming in and are considering getting out altogether and just selling Coleman stoves or something.

Then some slick hair smooth talker from the government calls you up and offers to compensate you and all the rest of yours financially so you can continue to sell the guns that are still legal. And continue to fight them.
 
sledge said:
In terms of whether what the CSAAA did being right or wrong if its presented clearly and without the little Marco slant I imagine it would be 50-50. I can see the point, that for a small dealer its better they survive. The Liberals want to destroy the industry, so this was an attempt to stop that.

However by allowing the Liberals to announce it first, they erred 100%. Major FAIL. The CSAAA should have announced what they were doing first, contacted the media first, got the truth out.

Let this be a warning to anyone. If you get in bed with the Liberals they will try to F you. No does not mean no with those pricks.

I think the CSAAA will suffer from their poor handling of the message. They may know a lot about selling guns, but they don't seem to know much about politics and communications.

I have been waiting all day to "hear from Ryan" before I made judgement. I am happy you cleared the air.
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I was going to post earlier in the day but I had to inform the board of my resignation. I didn't want them to read about it on here...most of us have been friends for 10 plus years and they had the right to hear it from me directly before I posted it online.


Ryan
 
I'm not in the industry but know quite a few over the years. What I don't understand is the logic in the CSAAA participating in any form whatsoever with the Liberals. The board must have known that any discussion, written or otherwise, would be made very public as per Lib modus operandi to the press as co-operation and to gun owners as collusion. Organizational Juden Rat.

I understand the retail community is hurting by sitting on unsalable inventory. But I'm sure as a community as a whole we could have come up with some stopgap measures to help stem the bleeding for the retailers that can't afford to wait for a possible change in politicians.

When I had unsold inventory (different business, but retail nonetheless) I unloaded at auction and wrote off the losses for a tax break. Still a loss, but better than zero. Banned guns can't be auctioned but they can be dewatted, parts kitted out or bundled for export. Marstar dewatted/parts kitted their unsold Norc M14 stock. I'm pretty sure they are still making a profit or at least breaking even.

Now like I said I know f all about the inside of the industry so this is just me blurting out some general observations and ideas but my point is that anything would be better than helping the Libs as they have historically always stabbed us in the back. Always.
 
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