Curious anonomoly

catnthehatt said:
Personally I like firearms, period!!:D
I have many rifles in wildcat calibers and custom barrels,
but I like hunting with the old original rifles like 577/450, .577 Snider, 45/70, or a patched round ball better than most of my other rifles.

I have a certain affenity for the first rifle my father built in the 50's, a shortended up Lee Enfield with a one pice stock and Kahles scope.
It handles well, is super accurate for hunting, and has a good "carry " to it.

It's a bolt action, mind you, but i still like hunting with it!:cool:

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Oh, and before I get jumped on by the guys that were at the range on Sunday,
Yes, i did shoot a newfangled wildcat with a big scope on one of my rifles!!:rolleyes:

BUT - I also shot my Longbranch with irons, and my iron sighted match rifle.
I like to shoot a variety , and I had to zero them for our Rifle Rodeo this weekend!:cool:

Cat
 
catnthehatt said:
Whatsa "sneaker"? :D
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Yup... just try going to the local SuperSportsMegaStore and asking the 20 y.o. salesperson (oops, sorry, "co-worker". What was I thinking?) for a "sneaker." There are now 2,471 varieties of sports shoewear, too. The last time I went into the local shop I got so dizzy perusing the wall of "sneakers" before me that I had to sit down.

I recall a few articles in Rifle mag. by Ross Seyfried where he has taken clients ("reactionist old codgers", I guess, although one as I recall was a rather attractive young lady) hunting with funny old rifles, such as a Mannlicher 6.5 x 54 with... wait for it.... IRON SIGHTS. (!) I don't recall the story in detai now but she took her animal with one shot.

Still, there is nothing wrong with a the new stuff per se. If it floats yer boat and drops the game, go for it.

:) Stuart
 
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I read an article not so long ago that was making the point that many so called ''new offerings'' really didn't have much over some of the decades old rifles-ie the 450 vs the 45/70.,the 350 magnum vs the 35whelen ,and the 260 vs the 6.5x55.In fact the only real diferance was in factory loads-which were deliberately toned down because of the older rifles.In fact the 65x55[my favourite deer cartridge ]is over 100 years old now-and takes deer and bear very very efficently with its high sectional density bullets.The ''modern'' .260 is hard pressed to beat it.
 
Keep in mind some of the guys buying the latest chambering are buying their first hunting rifle, so why not? Minimalism is o.k. for some, I find it boring. If this argument were taken to the fishing world, all you'd need is a spool of line and a plain lead head and a can of worms. But look at the average angler's tackle box, boat etc. Most of it is unneccessary but very cool.
 
Why does new have to be better??????

Can't new be just different????

I seen some of you guys traded in your horse and buggy for one of them new-fangled automobile-thingys. What fer? That old hoss always got you to where you was goin'......:p
 
joe-nwt said:
Why does new have to be better??????

Can't new be just different????
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No, because if things are different they're wrong, right?:confused:
Whole extremist regimes have been based on this presumption.
And why would companies try and persuade us we're wrong when it doesn't sell product.:rolleyes:
We live in a society that worships youth and newness and extremes.
How do companies sell new cars, cartridges, computers, etc.?
Faster or bigger or both.
We usually choose things based on this reasoning.
Efficiency, except when the lack of it really hurts us, is a very secondary aspect.
Most shooters could give a damn about how much recoil there is......until they have a shoulder injury.
Or they don't care about ammo costs......unless they have to buy factory ammo all the time.
How many people are really impressed when you appear with a rifle that has clearly spent some time in closet and is just a same old same old model/brand.
"Oh, that was good deal" or "It's not knocked about too much" is about the most you'll get.
It's not until you meet another "old gun" guy that you really get nattering.
But I have to say that I've found few people here that aren't interested more in how a gun shoots than how new it is and also that many are fascinated with the old quirky guns more than the new slick ones, not to say that we don't like something pretty that still smells like it came out of it's box.:redface: :D
 
I am a little late for this but, my last deer harvest was with 30-30...
I have killed most of my deer with a bolt action 308...
Last time I shot at 600 yards on targets was using M1 30-06 Garand....
AND have had the most fun gopher shooting with 22 LR no less...

So I think you know where I am going here.....
 
joe-nwt said:
Why does new have to be better??????

Can't new be just different????

I seen some of you guys traded in your horse and buggy for one of them new-fangled automobile-thingys. What fer? That old hoss always got you to where you was goin'......:p
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Trade in my horse...never! :)
 
I hunt with only one or two rifles that I've had for years. Nothing superfast or techy about them. I buy and trade rifles cause it is my 'hangup'. Some people collect teapot warmers. I walk into a gunstore not intending to buy anything, then my mind gets to thinking foolish thoughts and rifles start calling to me from the rack. I bought a nice shiny new .257 weatherby last weekend simply cause I liked the figure of the wood on it, pretty wood always gets to me, it started shouting at me from behind the counter, what else could I do? The weekend before I bought a SPS stainless cause my mind suddenly decided I need a donor action, didn't even ask what caliber it was just wanted a short action. Today I'm meeting a friend at the range to buy his .303 longbranch cause I decided I want one, don't know why, just happens, some days I can't help myself.:runaway:
 
Great article, Thanx Gibbs! :D

Oh and here is the badboy:
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curious anomoly

I have all the calibres you talked about but I get a smith to do the other stuff. I think of cars, guns,tools etc as starter kits and assume I am not going to get great but will have to tinker a bit to get what I want. Has served me well for nearly 60 years. My 30-06 is my main tool for hunting-been bedded, floated, trigger pull adj, stainless-that will do nicely. Shoots good enough to hunt with-has a Leupie so all thats left is the nut behind the wheel. Still I fell in love at the Kamloops show and now have a Ruger No 1b
in 223 and she is my baby. Be thankful you have a hobby that keeps you passionate. Doesnt get much better than that. Besides-depends what you are hunting in. We hunt cutblocks so the 30-06goes there but in scrub the model 94 30-30 gets to go. Match the calibre to the animal as well as the terrain.Stats say most deer taken within 100yds anyways.
 
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