current issue RCMP pistol

Some info to contradict some stuff in my previous posts(just to show I'm not scared to admit when I've made a mistake or I'm wrong).

AND since this thread is about the issued pistol!!!!

Just heard that the 226R DAK has gotten approval as the replacement secondary firearm for ERT.

So, if things work the way they should, we should be training the next group in April on the Sig instead of the 5946.
 
wow, now someone better get a blackwater sig 226 so he can practice up.... and also get a dak trigger for it :)

can you swap a DAK trigger into a sig without any hassles and what is the approx. cost ?
 
Westicle said:
wow, now someone better get a blackwater sig 226 so he can practice up.... and also get a dak trigger for it :)

can you swap a DAK trigger into a sig without any hassles and what is the approx. cost ?
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I don't know how much or what would be involved...

But I will be finding out!!!

I wonder if the 226R DAK mags would fit in the BW 226..... (yes, that is a redundant question for anyone that wants to try and correct me)

;)
 
226 trigger groups can be switched from one mechanism to another with minimal fuss or muss. Parts are not all that expensive, but you do need an armourer to do it.

Hmm. Gonna have to get me some DAK too.

And remember to spread the magazine love around and don't be greedy! ;)
 
Maybe I shouldn't have said earlier that the P226 DAK was the new ERT pistol, but I knew it was coming down the pipe.

The DAK is much better than the DAO, very smooth and about half the weight. I like the DA / SA better and think it's a better way to go. It does require more training though. The problem is officers who are trained on a DAO and then switching to DA /SA, too much expense and conversion time in some cases. If you start with DA / SA then it's much easier.

Rich
 
Rich LPS

Since the pistol is going to the ERT teams whom we would expect are more firearms savy than your non-ERT team member. I just can't believe there would be much in the way of training costs. I don't doubt it the way the government operates but with the amount of ammo the ERT teams get to practice with I would think the learning curve would be fairly short.

Take Care

Bob
 
Sorry about the above post I hit enter by mistake. The parts need are: DAK Hammer, DAK Hammer Strut, DAK (red) Main Spring, DAK Safety Lever, DAK Sear Spring , DAK Trigger Bar and DAK Sear.
You may not need the DAK Sear if you have a "newer" pistol as the new style Sear in the DA/SA models has the scallop in the Sear needed for the DAK Trigger Bar. Also don't forget to remove the Hammer Return Spring as it is redundant with the DAK system.
The total parts cost would be around $225.00 USD according to the "TOPGUN" website but they will not ship to Canada. I have converted my 229 9mm to DAK and if you are fanilliar with Sigs it's not that difficult.
 
Rich LPS said:
Maybe I shouldn't have said earlier that the P226 DAK was the new ERT pistol, but I knew it was coming down the pipe.

Rich
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No worries Rich. I kind of figured it was going to happen eventually, but hadn't heard anything the last year plus until a couple days ago from a buddy.

Now, having said that, I'll fully believe it myself when we're training the guys with them on the basic courses, and the guys in the field get switched over.

This is the rcmp after all, and even the 'I'll believe it when it's on paper' is pretty much meaningless.


kxc223 said:
Sorry about the above post I hit enter by mistake. The parts need are: DAK Hammer, DAK Hammer Strut, DAK (red) Main Spring, DAK Safety Lever, DAK Sear Spring , DAK Trigger Bar and DAK Sear.
You may not need the DAK Sear if you have a "newer" pistol as the new style Sear in the DA/SA models has the scallop in the Sear needed for the DAK Trigger Bar. Also don't forget to remove the Hammer Return Spring as it is redundant with the DAK system.
The total parts cost would be around $225.00 USD according to the "TOPGUN" website but they will not ship to Canada. I have converted my 229 9mm to DAK and if you are fanilliar with Sigs it's not that difficult.
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Damn.. I have some parts to buy!!!
 
I shot the 5946 and thought it was alright. I could see the logic of the RCMP to get that pistol(revolver trade-ins and revolver-like trigger). It would be great if it had an LEM or DAK type DAO where you could fire from the click of the trigger reset than having to completely remove all pressure on the trigger. I also agree with the idea that that platform reduces liability from possible NDs and missed shots by undertrained Members. It is unfortunate that there is no graduation process for capable marksmen(besides ERT) to upgrade to a DAK/LEM type trigger.
 
BlackWatch said:
I know some agencies have allowed women with smaller hands to carry an approved alternative to their standard issue. One CBSA officer will be carrying the PX4 sub-compact due to hand size.
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I keep hearing that but I just don't believe it. The PX4 subcompact is totally different from the regular model, and isn't really any smaller in the grip. I can't see an agency that's so paranoid about guns still allowing anyone to carry a sidearm that wasn't even in the trials.
 
rommelrommel said:
I keep hearing that but I just don't believe it. The PX4 subcompact is totally different from the regular model, and isn't really any smaller in the grip. I can't see an agency that's so paranoid about guns still allowing anyone to carry a sidearm that wasn't even in the trials.
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My supt, while on the arming orientation training in Ottawa, was told this by the regional arming co-ordinator. Apparently he is from the same port that the lady with the sub-compact issue.

I am not sure if Beretta even makes the subcompact in DA only? Maybe he said they were "looking" at the SC as a possible solution to her dilemma? Either way during training it was determined the PX4 was too big for her hand and that they were not going to exclude her from arming because of her hand size.

I have heard of some police departments, Peel for one, where officers carry different pistols due to the hand size. I believe there are some officers there carrying M&Ps.

I do agree with the paranoid comment. There are 9 levels of security at my building to access the firearms:eek:
Maybe they are putting the subcompact through the same tests as they did initially.
 
I would be surprised if the RCMP did adopt the P30 for general issue. It seems that the sheer cost of the complete replacement of the 5946/39-- would discourage them from any changes to their inventory. That being said I would like to pick up a restricted surplus 59 series pistol.
 
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