Custom 270 Win. Showing some Promise

I have located many photo's of failed Barnes bullets and only 1 Nosler, and it was their mono bullet, E-Tip. Barnes is suppose to be a premium bullet, well not premium to me, they require more work to be premium. My son and I are serious big buck hunters and will never roll the dice on a Barnes bullet. Our main objective is a humane kill, and Nosler has delivered all the time.
 
Well, that’s fine. But your experience with them pales in comparison to others use of them. I’ve yet to see one not kill their target and I’ve seen some driven through bone and meat that I know a ballistic tip wouldn’t have. I’ve shot a pile of game with that bullet as well.
 
track said:
Not aggressive, so far. I'm only .3 of a grain below maximum load, with no signs of pressure. I thought for sure that I would have a pressure spike before I arrived at max load,(short throat chamber) however to no avail. I'll be using Reloder 16 to achieve my goal, but must try something else that I have in mind.
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You may be new to loading. Maximum load can vary considerably from rifle to rifle, especially with custom throats. If you get heavy bolt lift after firing you have progressed beyond a maximum load. Short throats will give higher velocities (higher pressures) than regular longer throated factory rifles. Don't rely on a manual to tell you what is maximum. It was maximum for the rifle they tested.
 
track said:
Pete, I can only imagine the velocity, probably knock off the pedals once it hits flesh or bone, leave a nice pencil size exit hole. My very first custom made rifle was a 257 Wby. with a 28" Ted Gaillard barrel (velocity of 3,705 fps). The one and only year I used a Barnes bullet (yes, the 100gr. ttsx), shot a whitetail buck and it ran well over 500 yards before dropping dead. Thank goodness for snow so that I could track the buck. Only remote microscopic specks of blood could be found. After gutting, only a pencil size entrance/exit wound. Never a Barnes bullet again!
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I have seen the same with Nosler Partition bullets as well. I don't think it is a common experience though.

But I have never had a regular old Hornady fail though. It is why I prefer Hornady bullets for game hunting.
 
I know firsthand what Barnes bullets look like when they “fail”. I also know firsthand what BT’s look like when they “fail”. I’ll take the former.

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Until I've either shot it over a chrony, pounded the bolt open, or blown primers, i really have no idea where the load is in relation to maximum.
The chrony is the safest.
But I've tried all of them at one time or another. Not on purpose.
 
I've seen Barnes fail to expand on very very close shots where they would appear to have tumbled. Otherwise, of the ones I have recovered, they looked like they expanded properly
 
guntech said:
You may be new to loading. Maximum load can vary considerably from rifle to rifle, especially with custom throats. If you get heavy bolt lift after firing you have progressed beyond a maximum load. Short throats will give higher velocities (higher pressures) than regular longer throated factory rifles. Don't rely on a manual to tell you what is maximum. It was maximum for the rifle they tested.
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I've been reloading since 1982, and very aware that the reloading manuals are a guide for safe and effective reloading. Rarely have I experienced the same results from any manual, most particular, the Nosler. After every shot/load I feel for bolt lift and inspect every case for signs of pressure. Everything is a go so-far with 4 different powders, using the 130 gr. accubond........... your singing to the choir.
 
chuck nelson said:
Well, that’s fine. But your experience with them pales in comparison to others use of them. I’ve yet to see one not kill their target and I’ve seen some driven through bone and meat that I know a ballistic tip wouldn’t have. I’ve shot a pile of game with that bullet as well.
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Chuck, the Nosler BT are not classified as a premium bullet, whereas, Barnes are classified as premium and they still fail. Accubond and Partition are premium bullets, in particular, the partition.
 
Pressure drives velocity. If you are out pacing a reloading manual velocity wise, you are outpacing them pressure wise. The variable is the powder charge.
 
chuck nelson said:
Pressure drives velocity. If you are out pacing a reloading manual velocity wise, you are outpacing them pressure wise. The variable is the powder charge.
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I really don't know the velocity of this particular firearm, just going what Alliant states with their reloading data, bolt lift, and examining my fired brass/case. I'm most surprised that there is no sign of pressure with this short throat.
 
todbartell said:
So how fast did it go?
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I haven't measured the velocity, yet. I'm still only "calculating in theory" by Alliant load data and barrel length. I should be back to the range within 2 weeks, pending on home and garden chores. Retirees are busy you know, we don't have much time in our weekly schedule. LOL!!!
 
Jerrya, I hear-ya brother. I've witnessed many photo's of failed Barnes bullets along with negative stories.
 
This is typical performance for a Hornady 7mm 08 or .280...

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I would expect a 150 grain Hornady in a .270 would perform similarly.
 
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