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Anyone mess with them or try to modify round nose or any other type of bullets?

i've done a few, but now that i have a 9mm and .45 i'm really interested in it.

here is one i just made from a 230 gr .45 that now weighs 172.8 gr.

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just need to mix up a batch of blastic's gel and see how it opens up.
 
OK, here is the questions. How did you do that, and is that a CMJ or FMJ with an exposed base? There are no serrations in the jacket, so it may not open up either. If it works though, it would be fun.
 
i did think about that, but didn't go to deep, hmm. not that it compares, but i did the same with .22 stingers.

the .45 is slower with less pressure isn't it?


it's a FMJ, exposed base.

i put the bullet in a drill press, light pressure. used a hacksaw to cut the tip off. filed it smooth. measure the center and used 2 sized drill bits.
 
A easier and better approach to this would be to make hollow point bullets from scratch, or just buy hollow point bullets.
 
i wouldn't trust it for any home defence, just curious to see how different designs work mostly.

with .22's the large deep holes worked best. when i cut reliefs into them they barely opened which surprised me.
 
You could try casting your own in a Hollow Point mold. .45 ACP bullet lost 4 grn from before to after and mushroomed to .820" from .452".

5 grn of Unique at 10 yards into phone book. Can't get any better than that.

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Spawn-Inc said:
i did think about that, but didn't go to deep, hmm. not that it compares, but i did the same with .22 stingers.

the .45 is slower with less pressure isn't it?


it's a FMJ, exposed base.

i put the bullet in a drill press, light pressure. used a hacksaw to cut the tip off. filed it smooth. measure the center and used 2 sized drill bits.
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OK, What you have now, is basically a copper tube filled with lead. When fired, the heat form the gases is enough to compleatly melt the lead and force it out the copper tube, leaving your bore full of lead and a copper tube stuck in the bore. If another round is fired, gun go boom and you will not be happy.

This happened after the war when a company took surplus ammo and simply cut the copper tip off and reshaped the lead core to a point, then sold it off as hunting ammo.
 
Hp

OK, What you have now, is basically a copper tube filled with lead. When fired, the heat form the gases is enough to compleatly melt the lead and force it out the copper tube, leaving your bore full of lead and a copper tube stuck in the bore. If another round is fired, gun go boom and you will not be happy.

If this is true we all better stop shooting lead bullets could be very dangerous??

supermag
 
SUPERMAG said:
If this is true we all better stop shooting lead bullets could be very dangerous??
supermag
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Dude, Not fair.... uncalled for actually... We're just letting him know that there could be real issues that could cause serious injury when the core of the bullet seperates from the jacket of those bullets...

No need to be a a$$hole
 
i am aware that could happen, but i feel safe enough to try and of course it would be 1 rounds at a time, with a barrel check each time.

i would be very surprised though if that happened, the bullet has been pulled 4 times now and each time i used a vise to put it back, so there should be little crimp/holding it.

either way, once i get the gel made (takes 2 days) i will see how it performs.
 
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i am aware that could happen, but i feel safe enough to try and of course it would be 1 rounds at a time, with a barrel check each time.

i would be very surprised though if that happened, the bullet has been pulled 4 times now and each time i used a vise to put it back, so there should be little crimp/holding it.

either way, once i get the gel made (takes 2 days) i will see how it performs.
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WHAT? a vise???

The case isn't the problem, the moment the bullet encounters the rifling in the barrel it will develop resistance.... thats when the core is likely to blow through...

just to get this straight... You took a factory FMJ, pulled the bullet somehow 4 times, put it back in the case with a vice... and I'd be willing to bet you used the factory charge unweighed, right?

No worry about seating depth?

You are a brave brave man...

One part of advice for you... eye protection and welders gloves man...
 
On a positive note, at least the bullets lost a lot of mass to make up for the seating depth variations.

I just buy Hornady xtp's and load them up :) 110's out of a 8" barrel .357 go fast :) Kills the paper a little "deader".
 
Spawn-Inc said:
i am aware that could happen, but i feel safe enough to try and of course it would be 1 rounds at a time, with a barrel check each time.

i would be very surprised though if that happened, the bullet has been pulled 4 times now and each time i used a vise to put it back, so there should be little crimp/holding it.

either way, once i get the gel made (takes 2 days) i will see how it performs.
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WTF???!!!

No dies, no reloading gear, no calipers...


Badddddd idea...

If your gonna fire them be suuuuuuper careful. I would throw those out if I were you, but thats your gun, your life, your call.
 
through all the pulling i've likely lost .2 or .3 gr of powder. last measured amount was 4.3gr of what ever win uses.

when i said 4 times i meant i pulled it, reseated it, pulled it to hollow it, then reseated. then pulled it again to weigh it as i forgot to the second time. so i guess 3 times.

either way easy stuff to do, i've shot a few rounds of 9mm that i've pulled and reseated with no issues at all. though i did use calipers each time.

my reloading gear is on back order :(


maybe i've just yet to have something bad happen to learn from, but i really don't see the big deal. that being said i will take your guy's advise and toss it. once i get my reloading press and do some more reading i will toy with the idea then.

Thanks.
 
Good call man...

If you are really into making your own HP's from FMJ's you should look on youtube for "Ammosmith" - there are some really cool ways out there to swage your own HP's!
 
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If this is true we all better stop shooting lead bullets could be very dangerous??
supermag

Dude, Not fair.... uncalled for actually... We're just letting him know that there could be real issues that could cause serious injury when the core of the bullet seperates from the jacket of those bullets...

No need to be a a$$hole

Not an as$hole just rerread your post (hot enought to melt core out a bullet) really

supermag
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so i decided to give it a shot, and well shot the bullet. there was a good deal less recoil, so i must of lost a bit of powder, as well the bullet is lighter. i had no issues with it, and it made a clean cut into the paper.
 
You're lucky you lost a lot of powder while pulling it. trying to use the factory powder charge on a bullet that weighed 60 grs less is just asking for disaster
 
Am I missing something with the above post? How can shooting lighter bullet with a charge made for heavier bullets be bad, since a heavier bullet will use a lighter charge of "x" powder than the lighter bullet.
 
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