Custom Mosin scout mount

[mattcwc]

You can't buy a decent Mosin mount unless you spend $200 or more so.....
Make your own.
I like to save Mosins dying slow rusty deaths. A referb Mosin with a counterbored rusty barrel has no collector or historical blah blah so save it.

I grabbed some 6061 aluminum for this. Made it fit perfect in the rear site base, no movement at all.
Add a cross pin further back. Both pins are very tight. Grabbed this utg 870 rail from my lgs (nova tactical). Utg has come a long way with some of there product, only $29 for the rail, very nice quality.
Hand made as always.

As for the Mosins
Cut bbl to 20 inch. Clean the bbl of any rust down to the metal then polish with steel wool.
Free float the barrel.
Bed the action.
Trigger job, fix the loose trigger, shorten the sear and polish.
Polish bolt, all mating surfaces.
Sand and finish stock with minwax spar urethane.
Reblue everything.

 

[cyclone]

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Neat-looking rigs!...

 

[Tudenom]

Nice job on the adapter. Seems like most forward scope mount adapters are built way too high, I’m not sure why they do that?

It’s nice to be able to machine your own parts!

 

[MagWedge Industries]

Nice work.

We can build these as well if there is real interest out there. Price would be probably under $100.

 

[mattcwc]

Nice work.

We can build these as well if there is real interest out there. Price would be probably under $100.

How would you fasten the mount to the base? I made the extra hole furter back for the second cross pin. Most people won't want to drill a hole in the site base. I'm still looking for another way.

And did you just post in my thead that you're going to steal my idea and make money off it? Seems to be a trend around here. The mount I made is different from the rest because it will actually hold zero unlike the crap mounts out there you can buy, so don't say this already exists cause it doesn't.

 

[MagWedge Industries]

How would you fasten the mount to the base? I made the extra hole furter back for the second cross pin. Most people won't want to drill a hole in the site base. I'm still looking for another way.

And did you just post in my thead that you're going to steal my idea and make money off it? Seems to be a trend around here. The mount I made is different from the rest because it will actually hold zero unlike the crap mounts out there you can buy, so don't say this already exists cause it doesn't.

I have been looking at making a mosin scout mount for well over a year, you can rest easy on that score.

I don't know how unique your idea is. I have seen other scout mounts out there but to be honest have not checked to see how close yours resembles the prior ones. Some were commercial and others were hobbyist produced.

I would suggest the following: posting on cgn does not give you rights of production in any way. If you intended to commercially produce this item, l would suggest another strategy.

In my experience, people post threads like this in the hope someone will make a product available to others. If your intent was otherwise, as l said earlier, bad strategy.

I will not go into the details of how we decide on product design, but as a general rule l avoid slavishly copying anything. My post was intended to congratulate you on your work and check on interest in the product concept in general.

If you do intend to go ahead commercially, good luck.

 

[OkayShooter]

I have been looking at making a mosin scout mount for well over a year, you can rest easy on that score.

I don't know how unique your idea is. I have seen other scout mounts out there but to be honest have not checked to see how close yours resembles the prior ones. Some were commercial and others were hobbyist produced.

I would suggest the following: posting on cgn does not give you rights of production in any way. If you intended to commercially produce this item, l would suggest another strategy.

In my experience, people post threads like this in the hope someone will make a product available to others. If your intent was otherwise, as l said earlier, bad strategy.

I will not go into the details of how we decide on product design, but as a general rule l avoid slavishly copying anything. My post was intended to congratulate you on your work and check on interest in the product concept in general.

If you do intend to go ahead commercially, good luck.

Intellectual property, if he can prove that he came up with the idea first. Good example is Civil advantage/CCFR vs NFA. He used a logo 3 years prior to NFA trademarking it. The fact I really haven't seen a scout mount like this. Most are just a cross bolt that uses the pivot pin, that has setscrews That just push against the barrel or sight base. This is a solid mass with cross pins. Different than most.

Congratulating them is saying good work and leaving it at that.. Trying to profit it is saying I can make them for under 100$.

 

[mattcwc]

I have been looking at making a mosin scout mount for well over a year, you can rest easy on that score.

I don't know how unique your idea is. I have seen other scout mounts out there but to be honest have not checked to see how close yours resembles the prior ones. Some were commercial and others were hobbyist produced.

I would suggest the following: posting on cgn does not give you rights of production in any way. If you intended to commercially produce this item, l would suggest another strategy.

In my experience, people post threads like this in the hope someone will make a product available to others. If your intent was otherwise, as l said earlier, bad strategy.

I will not go into the details of how we decide on product design, but as a general rule l avoid slavishly copying anything. My post was intended to congratulate you on your work and check on interest in the product concept in general.

If you do intend to go ahead commercially, good luck.

I never really had any intent other then showing cgn, Just your post kinda came across as you wanted to make what I made.
Ya I have lots of Ideas for products but no way to mass produce them lack of cnc machine.

 

[mattcwc]

Intellectual property, if he can prove that he came up with the idea first. Good example is Civil advantage/CCFR vs NFA. He used a logo 3 years prior to NFA trademarking it. The fact I really haven't seen a scout mount like this. Most are just a cross bolt that uses the pivot pin, that has setscrews That just push against the barrel or sight base. This is a solid mass with cross pins. Different than most.

Congratulating them is saying good work and leaving it at that.. Trying to profit it is saying I can make them for under 100$.

You get it.

 

[mattcwc]

Just for fun, if anyone is interested say so. Let's "gauge interest"

 

[infidel29]

I'd be interested in getting a trigger job done on my mosin if anyone's offering and won't #### it up. Hate having to slap it hard to get it to fire.

 

[MagWedge Industries]

Okay shooter, that's definitely not how it works, sorry.

I suggest you get informed on the matter.

Essentially, if your idea is in the public domain anyone can use it. If you want to secure the rights you must apply for a patent. In the big market, the USA, a patent is awarded based on the first to file, not the first to conceive of an idea.

Again, l already had an idea to make a Mosin scout mount. They do not look like rocket science. Various types have been in the public domain for quite some time and are not protected intellectual property.

That being said, l am still on the fence on making one. How many guys want a scout configuration for this rifle? Seems to me the side mount may be a better option, or even no optic at all.

 

[OkayShooter]

Okay shooter, that's definitely not how it works, sorry.

I suggest you get informed on the matter.

Essentially, if your idea is in the public domain anyone can use it. If you want to secure the rights you must apply for a patent. In the big market, the USA, a patent is awarded based on the first to file, not the first to conceive of an idea.

Again, l already had an idea to make a Mosin scout mount. They do not look like rocket science. Various types have been in the public domain for quite some time and are not protected intellectual property.

That being said, l am still on the fence on making one. How many guys want a scout configuration for this rifle? Seems to me the side mount may be a better option, or even no optic at all.

Doesn't matter, still would be a sleazy thing to do. I know someone that shared a idea about parts for a airgun. And some business like you, took those ideas massed produced them, and called it their own. If you had an idea. Then make it, why comment on someone elses post that made one. Saying you can make it for X amount, or Ive been wanting to make one, or is there any interest? You got your own forum section to gauge any interest.

I dislike business like this.

 

[mattcwc]

Magwedge if you have a prototype then post it in your business section. How you going to gauge interest if you have nothing to show?

 

[MagWedge Industries]

Magwedge if you have a prototype then post it in your business section. How you going to gauge interest if you have nothing to show?

As l said before, it is a bad strategy to post until ready for production, unless you have a strategy to deal with copy cats. And crying on CGN about it is not effective.

I am not interested in copying your design, l would have thought that was abundantly clear, but there are definitely people who will. It's a nuisance when you have an afternoon and 20 bucks worth of parts invested but it's downright painful when you have thousands of dollars in inventory created as well as considerable time promoting and marketing.

My point is that if you post your idea publicly, expect it to be copied by someone. You have essentially made it part of the public domain. Even a patent only gives limited protection.

As to gauging interest, it is simple enough to ask if the central idea would appeal. You do not need to get into specific designs.

 

[quinnbrian]

Just for fun, if anyone is interested say so. Let's "gauge interest"

Last time I ask a question like that...my post got locked down , and was told to apply for vender status....funny how things change..
This is the response I received....

Please review the Policy for Business or Profit Seeking Activities at www.Canadiangunnutz.com.
Note that gauging interest is specifically mentioned.
Please contact CGN Admin.

 

[TreMoR]

Want one!

 

[mattcwc]

Last time I ask a question like that...my post got locked down , and was told to apply for vender status....funny how things change..
This is the response I received....

Please review the Policy for Business or Profit Seeking Activities at www.Canadiangunnutz.com.
Note that gauging interest is specifically mentioned.
Please contact CGN Admin.

I'm not selling anything.

 

[mattcwc]

As l said before, it is a bad strategy to post until ready for production, unless you have a strategy to deal with copy cats. And crying on CGN about it is not effective.

I am not interested in copying your design, l would have thought that was abundantly clear, but there are definitely people who will. It's a nuisance when you have an afternoon and 20 bucks worth of parts invested but it's downright painful when you have thousands of dollars in inventory created as well as considerable time promoting and marketing.

My point is that if you post your idea publicly, expect it to be copied by someone. You have essentially made it part of the public domain. Even a patent only gives limited protection.

As to gauging interest, it is simple enough to ask if the central idea would appeal. You do not need to get into specific designs.

Dude you tried to high jack my thread to promote you and your product without knowing if I was trying to sell something or not. You have your own section,use it. You don't know if the mods gave me permission or not, you just tried to weasel your way in.
Business must be slow. I'm done with this.

 

[mattcwc]

Making gun parts is just a hobby, if I post anything I make anyone is welcome to make there own.
Another way of making this would be to have a tab run into were the spring goes. Then you won't have to drill another pin hole. I'll try this next.