Cutting down a barrel (shortening)

You heard it here folks!
If you like rifles with short barrels, you must be a poacher.
If you are a real hunter, you must have a rifle with a minimum of 24" of barrel, longer is better.
Regardless of how a gun may handle or balance, it must have a long barrel or you are surely a poacher.
Any firearm with a short barrel and short oal is certainly in the hands of a criminal.
How is it that any decent person in their right mind could use a short rifle, they must be poachers.

Give me a f*****g break.

Now, now, MM...relax. As a short-gun-fancier myself, I can understand how those two posts could piss you off. I kinda felt the same way.

But all they really do is indicate how those two posters think and hunt...and I'm pretty sure that one of them is kidding...
 
My advice is to proceed carefully. Drastically shortening the factory barrel length will have an effect on handling, balance, muzzle velocity, muzzle blast, recoil, and aesthetics. Lets begin with the ballistic effects. The smaller the bore size and the higher the velocity envelope, the more velocity you loose per inch of barrel length you reduce. The heavier the bullet you shoot, the less velocity you loose by shooting in a shorter barrel, as all things being equal, a smaller the powder charge takes less barrel length to achieve optimum velocity. I came up with a way to resolve these problems when I decided I had to build a 20" .375. My solution was to rechamber from .375 H&H to .375 Ultra (I'd have gone to .378 Weatherby but for the cost of the brass). The 20" Ultra drove a 300 gr bullet at 2600 and a 270 at 2850, just like a long barreled H&H. But I got way ahead of the curve with heavy 350 and 380 gr bullets driving them up to 150 fps faster than was possible in the H&H. If I was building another . . . and I am, I'd go with a 22" barrel.

Now for the effect that shortening the barrel has on the shooter. Blast can become a real problem, again its worse with a small bore. Recoil will change, but whether or not it becomes a problem depends on the individual. The bottom line is that you are reducing gun weight which increases recoil velocity with the same load. Velocity will be reduced in most cases enough that you should confirm your point of impact at a variety of ranges. The result might have an effect on the coincidence of the trajectory and the sight, but its unlikely to effect the terminal performance of the bullet on a live target. The shorter barrel might result in a rifle that is more accurate, being stiffer, and perhaps you'll get a better crown, and perhaps the muzzle will happily coincide with the tightest part of the bore, although that will be accidental if you simply tell your smith to knock off 4" rather than to shorten the barrel to coincide with the tightest part of the bore. Chances are any change in accuracy, be it for better or worse, probably won't have any effect on your ability to hit in the field.

Finally we come to handling and aesthetics. Shortening the barrel will change the balance, and if you go too far, the center of balance shifts too far rearward, resulting in a clubby feel. Where the barrel was shortened to make it quicker, the opposite becomes the realization, with a piece that actually takes longer to get on target and is difficult to hold there. This can be negated by choosing a larger barrel contour, but now you're going the route of a custom rifle, rather than just making your factory rifle better suited to your needs. If the barrel is too short relative to the length of the stock's forend, the appearance is unsatisfactory. If you have to drill down into the length of the forend to pour in lead shot, this will improve the rifle's balance and reduce recoil, but the rifle is now no lighter than before it was shortened. Just remember, everything you do to change the dimensions of that rifle, have a cumulative effect downstream.
 
I have had several barrels shortened over the last several years last 2 were my Rem 700 LSS in 375RUM had it shortened from 26" to 21" and my Rem 700 LSS in 30-06 had it shortened from 24" to 20".

I have been into short T/C Contender carbines for a few years now I have carbine barrels as short as 14" others are 18", several are 21", 22", 23" the longest is a 24" 50 cal mag muzzle loader barrel.

I am now stepping up in performance levels and bought a s/s T/C Prohunter with a 26" barrel in 7mm mag traded that barrel for a 28" 30-06 and bought a 28" 375H&H barrel I just shipped both of these barrels to Guntech on Van Island (they should be delivered to him today) to have both of them shortened to 22" resulting in a rifle with an overall length 4" shorter than my 20" barreled Rem 700 LSS.

Follow this link it shows there is potential for better accuracy with shortened barrels (it is Prohunter specific) as well I prefer the handling characteristics of the shorter rifles/carbines I still have rifles with 24" - 26" barrels I just find I do not take them out hunting as much as I do my short guns.

http://www.dandtcustomgunworks.websitetoolbox.com/post/TC-Pro-Hunter-Test...-4637984
 
I think it all depends on the rifle, I have one with a 30" barrel, long action too, that feels great, and I also have rifles with 22" that feel wrong! Some will shoot better, ie. more accurate when shortened, some wont. Hand loading will usually correct the accuracy issue though.
 
Just a follow-up to my previous post in this thread, regarding my cut-down Ruger 77 in .338Win. I adjusted the gun's new iron sights to be dead-on at 100 yards with my "play/practice" loads, but couldn't compare the accuracy to the pre-cut state since there were no sights before. I then installed a Leupold Vari-X II 1-4x20 scope (my favourite hunting scope...I have about a dozen of'em) in standard Ruger rings and found my 200-yard group to be centered within about 2.5 inches of the pre-cut POI without even making any adjustments. Best group at 200 was almost exactly 2 inches, which is very slightly better than the best I could do with the pre-cut barrel and a 2.5-8x scope. The barrel must indeed be stiffer, having gone from 24 inches down to about 18 3/4 inches, but I would bet that the new and beautifully-done crown has more to do with this. Muzzle blast is certainly increased (no surprise there, but it's still not as bad as a muzzle-braked or magnaported gun) and although I can't really discern a difference on my shoulder, the muzzle lift seems to be increased slightly. Handling is a personal preference thing, but I like it...haven't gotten anyone else's opinion yet, and don't really care! Would I have done this if the gun was my only big-game rifle? I dunno...but as a member of my stable of hunting guns, I much prefer it now to the way it was. As stated before: make sure you know what you want!
 
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