Cutting weight via scope?

As mentioned above- not everyone can afford to lose weight and stay healthy.

Yes you could lose a few ounces by moving to a lighter scope but theres trade offs. In my experience, the smaller objective lens scopes (like 33mm) are a bit of a hindrance in low light. The scope is arguably the most important part of a hunting rig. Its definitely not where I’d cut weight.

What is your hunting clothes like? I recently broke down and bought a purpose built hunting coat. Its a couple pounds lighter than my old coat (and warmer). I wish I would have gotten one sooner.
 
Honestly if 2 oz is too much, what about the 150 lb Deer you shoot? How will you manage that?

Yeah, no doubt. Some of the posters in this thread have me wondering what planet they're from...

I get it, it makes sense to lighten everything (even rings or scope) if that's what your ultimate goal is, even with gear. But some of this is to the point of absurd.
 
Honestly if 2 oz is too much, what about the 150 lb Deer you shoot? ...

First: Nobody is saying that 2oz is too much. Second: I HAVE to carry those 150lbs of dead deer, there's no way around it.

If you want to, you can avoid carrying an extra 10-20% of equipment weight just by choosing gear with that in mind. So that's what some people choose to do.


...I get it, it makes sense to lighten everything (even rings or scope) if that's what your ultimate goal is, even with gear. But some of this is to the point of absurd.

On that we're agreed: There are diminishing returns with any upgrade. No different from chasing accuracy in a rifle, or performance in a truck. Absurd depends on your wallet and your priorities.
 
To the original poster: Technically yes, you can probably find an optic that will be lighter. However, optical quality, usable/appropriate magnification, etc all being equal, it's a pretty poor return on investment to save on weight of a rifle system. Regardless of typical preference choices between hunting rifle types of those who stalk (ie walk lots, shoot little) and those who are more static, there are better, more cost effective ways to make your system weight work more for you.

I cast aside fitness for the moment and briefly mention simple choices of clothing that may be more impactful that completely swapping an optic. I'll also caveat that I don't believe in the notion that kit solves the perceived problem because it seldom is. Whilst kit should be fit for purpose (ie suitable for abilities and technical requirements), it isn't the end all be all. However, simple things like choice of clothing and footwear have a larger impact on carrying efficiency. Many people use equipment that is overbuilt for their requirements. Anytime that increase weight is preferred, it must offer something else (eg stability, protection) in return. One doesn't wear heavy, robust reinforced mountaineering boots, if one is primarily on non-alpine terrain, carrying light loads. Conversely, the increased weight of technical footwear is acceptable and preferred for the added stability, protection to manage your overall load better in those terrains where lighter footwear options may not offer more efficient energy expenditure.



Nobody humps like the Infantry. Spent a couple years carrying a MG and Carl G. Walked hundreds or thousands of KM over my time. So a few oz won't matter of you train for it. You are going to make up the weight if it's raining and stuff gets wet.

... like the LIGHT infantry ;)

Not sure why you jumped straight to fitness here. Anyone can lose weight. Anyone. And eating like a pig and trying to run it off isn't the way. You can't outrun your diet, but you can eat smart and lose weight. I've done it, and anybody can do it if they want to so quit making excuses. If you're obese, have heart, joint, or physical ailments, you can still lose weight. Eat less, it's not that hard. Some exercise helps, but I lost 26 lb by changing my diet and not my activity level.

As for the ounces, get real. Sure you can notice a few ounces sitting in your hand or whatever, but on your rifle? Right. If you're so sensitive to weight, do you notice yourself losing approx 2 oz of moisture an hour by breathing when you're out walking? More so from bodily functions, such as sweating? Do you have a sigh of relief after urinating 3-4 oz?:p:p:p
Respectfully I disagree.

First: No, not everyone can lose weight and stay healthy doing it. And for many people it's just not realistic. Either way, you shouldn't have to be at your ideal body weight in order to discuss lighter gear options here.

Second: Yes, some people can notice the difference a few ounces make on a rifle. Weight on something you carry feels different from weight in your body.

I'm happy to agree to disagree. If we want to get into more detail, these are probably great topics for another thread.

The ol'adage is true. 'You can't outrun a bad diet.' Most also accept the 80/20 rule (for average people), where 80% of your physical fitness/health is largely nutritional choices and only 20% is physical activity. [Even elite world-class athletes that are already training and eating at the best, are ~70/30].

Everyone can be healthier than they currently are. Athletes do not stop training and eating as such, even when they've achieved their intended body morphology for that isn't the goal but rather just a means to an end. Except for those with genetic hormonal imbalances and diseases, people fail and are overweight because they don't develop good habits and lifestyles.
 
Do yourself a favor and buy a scope that costs more than $200. You'll be glad you did.
Depending on the type of hunting you do, weight can make a big difference. For me, the lighter the better.
Leupold vx3 2.5-8x36 is 11.5 ounces. Leupold vx3 1.5-5x20 is 9.5 ounces.

^^ This ^^ ...... Don't buy cheap scopes. They end up costing more when they need to be replaced.

Buy a VX2 2-7 or VX3 2.5-8 and be happy.
 
For anyone who cares, I'm 6'4" and 205lbs. I intentionally bulked and gained 60lbs in the last two years. I workout 3-5x a week and walk at least 5hrs a week, all year long (dog owner)

I unintentionally lost 10lbs in the month of Oct during muzzle season - it takes a lot more body weight to change the 'feel' of a walk then it does having an extra lb in my hand or pack. I'm obviously 80% after an excuse to buy a 400$ leupold, and 20% interested in my gun being lighter. Same reason i run a 18" barrel and synthetic stock and don't carry anything in my pack outside of legal gear, a deer call and a snack.

My current scope is nearly 18oz. The 2-7x33 is around 10 - thats nearly 1/2 the weight and allegedly get higher quality glass.
 
For anyone who cares, I'm 6'4" and 205lbs. I intentionally bulked and gained 60lbs in the last two years. I workout 3-5x a week and walk at least 5hrs a week, all year long (dog owner)

I unintentionally lost 10lbs in the month of Oct during muzzle season - it takes a lot more body weight to change the 'feel' of a walk then it does having an extra lb in my hand or pack. I'm obviously 80% after an excuse to buy a 400$ leupold, and 20% interested in my gun being lighter. Same reason i run a 18" barrel and synthetic stock and don't carry anything in my pack outside of legal gear, a deer call and a snack.

My current scope is nearly 18oz. The 2-7x33 is around 10 - thats nearly 1/2 the weight and allegedly get higher quality glass.

2-7 is a good choice, I have a couple of them on two rifles. - dan
 
I would tend to first try to cut some weight by changing out the base and rings to a quality 2 piece alloy system (Talley 2 piece lightweights come to mind). Getting rid of that flat 1 piece base that's usually made out of a solid bar of steel will easily shave off more than 2 oz.

I have a Tikka T3 that I was also attempting to shave down to its lowest possible weight and that's what I did. Mind you the scope I selected ended up to be a 4.5X14X50 Zeiss so that didn't help any but the rifle shot so well that I wanted to use a long range optic. So it was a trade off.

Many scope companies offer a compact version of the mid range, lower power variables in a 1 inch tube so I'd look there as well. The previously mentioned 2X7X33 compact Leupold is an excellent choice for capability vs weight. A quality polymer stock will also shave some weight off but just make sure it fits you well. A light neoprene sling and thin recoil pad shaves a bit more weight off.

If you want to go whole hog, a lightweight fluted 20 inch barrel will be quite noticeable, but rather expensive.

There are gains out there to be had and added up together will make a noticeable difference but they won't be particularly cheap. Lightweight costs money.
 
I have a 9.5 oz Leupold fx2 6x36 with a cds turret installed. I think the 4x33 I have is only half ounce lighter, I have both, the 6x was supposed to be a bit heavier but it's hardly. I put target knob on the 4x as well. Have enjoyed the 2.5-8x36 Leupolds also. Even had a 3-9x33 ultralight at one point...they should bring that one back! But there is something to be said for quality. You can get it done but you can be more confident and maybe even better with higher quality image for given magnification ranges.

I’ve migrated away from the lightweight 1” tube Leupolds to the Trijicon accupoint 3-9x40 green dot and love this scope. 13.4 oz and 2 oz for Talley low rings means 15.5 oz added (just under 1 lb for rings and scope) and as much as I also hate that 3-9 vanilla number....i finally came around to understand it. We coyote hunt lots as well, does it awesome. We dialed up deer out to 420 so far no issues. The 9x on the Trijicon seems equal to the 10x on a vx3i Leupold 3.5-10, it's annoying that leupold exaggerates it's magnification ranges where I think Trijicon does the opposite!, the glass is way better on the Trijicon, it’s just another level above in image, adjusters(turrets and mag ring) and not missing the Leupolds at all. The battery free green dot illumination is super intuitive for hunting as well. Moral of story is...don’t get hung up on weight, there’s more to it. Ps you can get Kenton speed dial turrets for trijicon or get mil dot version for elevation comp, or run both for fun/redundancy.
 
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I sadly missed a 33mm ulta-lite on Gun post, but got this instead for 375. Just arrived this afternoon. 11.6oz in real life.

The first 2 BDC's correspond to my 200 and 280y drops which is about all you need in NS....190gr shaved off as well!





 
The current VX-3HD 3.5-10x40mm is probably my favorite hunting scope at the moment. It's currently mounted on a .30-06, but also spent time on my Sig Cross in 6.5, making a super light and compact rig that was ridiculously accurate. Weighs 13 ounces. The CDS dial tracks beautifully despite me being more accustomed to shooting off a BDC reticle (and it doesn't care which magnification you're on). The optical clarity is great, flat edge-to-edge, no discoloration. Reticle is about perfect thickness for my liking. Zero stop works perfectly. With a set of Backcountry ringmounts it'll add a pound to your rifle. Literally the only thing they could do to make it better IMO is make a 4x mag system and put out a 3-12x40mm version. I am 100% confident taking a shot out to 500 yards, depending on which rifle it's sitting on. It's pricier than the >$500 bunch, but offers no compromises.

There is a trend in hunting though where people are buying carbon fiber featherweight rifles and putting 30mm maintube, 50mm objective scopes on them and I just don't get it. I can take my rinky-dink 6.5 Creedmoor out to nearly 800 yards with a 1" tube. Are people trying to hit animals farther out than that with featherweight hunting rifles? Okay, rant over.

Anyways, the best thing you can do to cut weight is to take it out of your pack, off your waistline, out of your boots, and then out of your rifle system - especially if it's already shooting nicely. I used to try and carry everything plus the kitchen sink into the woods. Now it's a frame to haul meat, a small dry bag with lunch, game bags and electronics, a Havalon, and a Nalgene, the rest stays in the Explorer.
 
Anyways, the best thing you can do to cut weight is to take it out of your pack, off your waistline, out of your boots, and then out of your rifle system - especially if it's already shooting nicely. I used to try and carry everything plus the kitchen sink into the woods. Now it's a frame to haul meat, a small dry bag with lunch, game bags and electronics, a Havalon, and a Nalgene, the rest stays in the Explorer.

I've already kicked that hornets nest earlier in the thread lol.
 
I've already kicked that hornets nest earlier in the thread lol.

Ha! Literally the first thing I do to prepare for a hunt is lace up the boots and start putting miles on them every night after dinner at least a few weeks before. I'm 43, fashion is nothing, I don't care if I look like an idiot wearing a frame bag and hunting boots while walking through the park :) (my wife has a vastly different opinion!)

The second is cut a little weight from a lot of stuff (the pack and "other gear"). There is only one rifle, one mounting system, and one scope to cut weight from, but I've seen guys carry axes and machetes and two or three different knives "just in case". A dozen cartridges - how many shots do you plan on taking? A full cleaning kit in the ridiculously off-chance something gets in the barrel instead of some electrical tape over the muzzle. Full cooking kit when a couple sandwiches and some Clif bars will do the trick. There's plenty of ways to cut weight and increase your capacity to carry more before re-thinking a sporter-weight hunting rig in the name of a few ounces.
 
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