Cycling speed - lever vs bolt
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Same thing with me love my Winchester low wall for fare weather it is my all time favert rifle and T/C for my all weather hunting rig
After that Levers and I have to put the Lee Enfield in the mix too
All others are fun shooting and hunting with them but when it come to hunting give me just one good clear shot speedy follow up shot don't mean nothing if you make a good shot the first time
For work doing the wildlife monitor give me a leaver or a pump action shotgun ,bolt acting don't Evan come in the picher
For hunting for fur bolt acting 223 and a 10/22 (10/22 to beat up abuse rifle nothing that will brake my hart I have no love for the 10/22 but it works lol )
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I often fire multiple rounds without taking the bolt action rifle off of my shoulder. And with heavier recoil rifles, I am cycling the bolt while recovering from recoil, so the difference in time to fire an aimed follow up shot with a bolt action is insignificant.
Apparently this was Sam Peckinpah's idea, and he eventually had to leave the show because he thought there wasn't enough realistic violence.
I never understand why Americans on YouTube unshoulder the rifle after every shot.
Flunk a trial? How about flunking a sobriety test? How about flunking common sense hunting....?
For fun lets us think about the **tive hunters who hunt and shoot weapons drunk from the couches in the back of their pick ups...all night long....
At night with the Hi-Po spots..
Think about that cause it is standard procedure in these parts...oh and *they don't require wildlife tags or firearms licenses...
...and Fish & Wildlife officers....no they will not get involved, hell not even answer questions when posed....
But in a *hit fight....I'll take lever every time.
Easier.
More fluid motion.
More rounds in most cases..
Never leave your target while cycling...
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More than one might think, Chuck. My experience agrees whole heartedly with this statement.
I say lever action is faster but like many others have said I prefer bolt because its simpler and stronger.
I would like to watch a lever action take on a Lee Enfield or a Winchester SXP. The Enfield and SXP are the fastest non semi actions in the world in my opinion.
I would like to watch a lever action take on a Lee Enfield or a Winchester SXP. The Enfield and SXP are the fastest non semi actions in the world in my opinion.
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Looky must be ####ing with us. That's the only explanation.
You can work a lever faster from the shoulder in almost any situation. But you can work a bolt pretty damn fast if you spend some time getting into the habit of running the bolt quickly after the shot. It really should be a reflex.
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How much recoil are you trying to control with your dominant hand? That is, in my experience, the job of the hand gripping the forestock.
some like the idea of having a bolt stop on a straight pull ... still wondering why the r8 came on the market? the heym sr30 is very good on that matter and very easy to operate but a bolt can be fast.
i ve done my first triplet on wild boar with a regular bolt heym sr20 the guys around thought i was using a semi auto rifle ....
Only matters when facing down a charging griz!
Which is probably why 1895 Marlins in 45.70 are somewhat popular with northern guides.
we do not know the same guides for sure ...
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I can tell you that I have never fired anything that cycles faster than a Steyr M95... handy, quick cycling little rifles (that pack a punch)!
My personal opinion, is that recoil happens and should be absorbed at the shoulder..... if you have to change your shooting stance, hand position, habits then you can expect to pay the price in accuracy...... if a rifle is "too much" for you then you should hunt with one that isn't and change your strategy...... (not directed at you bum, just a general response).. there is nothing "manly" about hunting a rifle you can't handle, nor is there anything "manly" about using a sub par cartridge beyond its intended range.... what is "manly" is hunting within your capability and ensuring you harvest your animal cleanly whether it's a groundhog or a trophy elk.......
A straight action bolt scares the #### out of me as an engineer...... and I am not "dissing" rifles that have one as poorly engineered, but if the charge is overloaded and the bolt stop fails, where is that bolt going to go?.... Of course I have seen no reports of this happening and I may be being a Nancy here........ but I would rather be a Nancy than gain .15 seconds reloading a rifle for a second shot.....
Good feedback Kurgan, but what I would submit is "what is the true importance of being able to cycle a second round a split second earlier?".... versus reliability, familiarity etc.... (not directed at you, but in general)......
Hands down, if having a second shot at hand is the most important thing to you, then you can't beat a semi...... arguing bolt versus lever speed is like splitting hairs.....
Having a rifle in a chambering you want for the game you are shooting at, at the range you wish to be able to shoot it at is far more important than how fast you can chamber and fire round two......
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Brad it happened in the past with the r93 ... all the time it was the handloading that was blamed. remember germans need a license and a course to reload ... if you look up the details of the r93 and the bolt stop you will understand your fear .... the heym sr30 is not designed the same way and the r8 had a corrected bolt stop .... seems it took them a while to figure why beretta went from the 92 to 92fs ...
