CZ 110 for personal concealed carry and self defense?

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Here I am in South America and today is the day I deliver my "application" (typed letter explaining why I want one) for a firearms license. They do not distinguish between conealed or not. Just a license and that is it. This will be for personal self defense as it is very poor here and at time I may be required to go to nasty places including smaller villages/towns. Most of my work I will be alone save for a few local staff. Part of my problem is my job will entail catching thiefs and frauds in the company so I will likely be making enemies when they get canned, or at least can't keep stealing from the company.

So in anticipation that the police commissioner gives me my permit (he may not), I went to a locval shop to see what I could buy, and checked out prices etc. Police limit me to a 9mm. As I want to be able to import whatever I buy back into Canada, I have to comply with Canadian rules so no short stuff. The only pistol they had that obviously met my criteria was a CZ 110 in 9mm.

What do you guys think of this gun, and do you have any concerns for using it for self defence. I think that if I get it, I would likely carry it concealed in my Maxpedition fatboy. Looks unassuming, but can be quickly drawn and hold another mag. Does anyone know if the CZ110 can be fired from within the bag? Would it prevent the slide from working? Any other comments or suggestions?

As to the self defense in a foreign country thing...it looks like this place is pretty respectful of one's right to self defense. In fact I was just reading an article of how the lefties are upset that someone shot a chain snatcher from behind after chasing him through the streets. The article sighted the criminals mom crying for their baby who didn't deserve this. :jerkit:

The shooter/victim was never charged as it was clear cut self defense of life (and property) and was free to go about their business. :)
 
I would strongly suggest not carrying it in your bag!!! In fact, don't carry ANY bag if you don't have to. Snatch and grab (or slash and grab) is a favourite tactic. And if you do carry a bag, carry one that looks like a POS.

They will come up behind you while you are monetarily distracted by someone/something in front of you, slash the strap and make off with it. To them it is just too bad if your back happens to get in the way of their knife/boxcutter/etc.... :mad:

Get a proper holster for your hip and get clothing to provide concealment.

If you are going go the carry in bag route, firing from inside the bag would likely get you one un-aimed shot before the slide embeds itself into your wrist, preventing a full cycle.

If you want to shoot from inside a bag, a revolver with a shrouded hammer would be a better option. Quite honestly, ANY gun is better than no gun at all, as long as it works.....
 
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Well it sounds like your only option. Does it matter if it's any good for CCW? Sounds like there is no requirement to conceal so the size shouldn't be an issue. It can be carried with a loaded chamber and looks to have decent ergonomics. If it were my only choice I wouldn't be too worried about carrying it.
 
While I have not shot a cZ110, I have read that the trigger is much better than that of the cZ100. As to comments from shooters, I suggest you go to www.czforumsite.info. There is section dedicated to these pistols.
 
cjs: Have you ever been to south america? Too fricken hot and more importantly too fricken humid to wear a stabproof/bullet proof jacket. Why protect yourself from one potential danger just to KILL yourself from heat stroke. :D I appreciate the sentiment, but no way.

b: I'm just more concerned about drawing more attention to myself. Walk softly and carry a big stick and all that. Plus open carry negates much of your advantage, as anybody that does #### with you knows your armed and can see the gun.
 
The CZ110 is a prohib in Canada, 98mm barrel, so scratch that if bringing it home is a must.

Why not just get something for while you're there and sell it before you come back?

Lotsa nice small pistols in South America. (Bersa 9mm Ultra-Compact!)
 
is the one you can buy 9X21 or 9mm para (9X19), a lot of south american countries will not allow 9mm / military calibers. The one you are looking at is very likely 9X21
 
What do the local Police carry? It can be an advantage to carry the same thing they do (bad guys might think before trying to steal from a foreigner who looks like the local Policia is providing him with weapons :D)
 
110 Prohib? Ahhh ####. If I buy something i WANNA KEEP IT! Wahhhhh...I was hoping to keep the pistol that I got to carry for protection while down here.

The store said it was 9mm para. (9x19). The have some other stuff but all smaller, like .380s and a nice tiny walther. PPK?

This makes me sad. I could just buy and sell something, but selling here on the legit market ain't easy. They don't have a GGN.com here. ####. ...#### #### fuk.
 
How about a CZ 75? Might as well get a common gun so parts & mags are available. Are they expensive down there?
 
Too bad you're limited to 9mm. You could probably pick up a decent Sistema Argentina (1911 clone) for a good price. Most look like they have been beat to he** but are generally still fair-good shooters.
 
Or you could get a Makarov, they should be cheap. A little more power than 380 and still the size of a PPK, and easy to conceal, but can't bring it back.
 
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.... IF you're bound and determined to be able to shoot from ( though ) a bag, then a Revolver may well be your best option. Perhaps, if they were available a used Smith and Wesson in 9mm. As to bringing it back, really if it were me, I wouldn't be that concerned, simply leave it there, and chalk it up to expenses and experience. .... David K
 
south ummmm

im from there and I carry when I go its fricking hot so the best for you will be a IWB holster, funny pack not good the bad boys will know you carry, i dont know where are you but I recomend a beretta 84 in 380 or any glock conpact, or look for the beretta cougar o model 8000 they are small ,, be carefull..vaya con dios
 
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cjs: Have you ever been to south america? Too fricken hot and more importantly too fricken humid to wear a stabproof/bullet proof jacket. Why protect yourself from one potential danger just to KILL yourself from heat stroke. :D I appreciate the sentiment, but no way.

b: I'm just more concerned about drawing more attention to myself. Walk softly and carry a big stick and all that. Plus open carry negates much of your advantage, as anybody that does f**k with you knows your armed and can see the gun.
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I have been to Guatemala, Panama, Peru, Chile, Argentina and Brazil :)

I would bring one - you might need it at some point.
 
What I meant by not having to conceal was thatif someone got a glimpse you wouldn't be explaining yourself to police. I know you can't bring it back but a lightweight .38 snubby with 158 grn SWCs is a pretty hard combo to beat given your limitations. If you get one with a shrouded hammer it could easily be fired from within a pocket or bag. I think someone mentioned that but I thought I'd repeat. Good luck and stay safe.
 
If you can get an aftermarket 4.2"+ barrel for a makarov, for instance... You would have to leave the prohib barrel behind when coming back, but you'd be able to keep the gun, at least (And you'd have a very rare pistol on your hands, to boot).
 
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