CZ 452 Grand Finale

While to some it may be just a " pig with lipstick and thus is still a pig "
It sure looks like a nicely finished rim fire rifle to me.
Sure the stamped steel trigger and trigger guard could use some improvements that's just my thoughts I like the CZ 452/453/455's.
Tight Groups,
Rob
 
FLHTCUI said:
It sure looks like a nicely finished rim fire rifle to me.
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It is, if that is all you are looking at. Then you look at the price tag and compare it to what you're getting for your dollar vs other manufacturers. It's in the price range of an Anschütz 1710 sporter rifle.

Wood quality: We'll need to see a few more of the 452 GF's to set a standard, this one looks nice but I'm not going "wow!". Anschütz consistently supplies beautiful stocks.

Action: Hands down no comparison, the Anschütz Match 54 action leaves the 452 in the dust.

Trigger: Plain Jane CZ trigger (really, they couldn't make a Mr. Fly for it?) vs. Anschütz 5096 D. I'll take the Annie please.

Barrel: I highly doubt CZ produced the barrels for the GF with a different or improved process making it subject to the wide variance in quality observed between individual rifles from them. I see Anschütz puts out barrels that consistently achieve a high standard of accuracy with a narrower range of individual variation.

When considering spending that sum of money I know I want the best value for it. The rifle should not only be beautiful but exceptionally accurate as well. The action and trigger should be the finest offering from the manufacturer and known for their excellence. Can anyone honestly say the CZ 452 Grand Finale is providing you that value for your money?

It is like a $2000 bottle of Scotch, really no better than the $200 bottle but commands it's sum because it is rare. Some people won't even drink such a bottle of Scotch if they own one, as I'm sure many who purchase a 452 GF will either display it or let it sit in the safe unfired. This edition is a collector's item not a performance piece and that's all there is to it. We all know how crazy the price can be for anything "collectable", imagine if the 452 GF came with an unopened Vinyl Cape Jawa Star Wars figurine? ;) :rolleyes:
 
I don't like the phrase "it is what it is," but keep in mind that when you buy something unique, rare, and expensive, it's for collectability not practical use. That's what this rifle is supposed to be, with only 1000 being produced -- if, in fact, that's all that are made. People collect all kinds of things that are not useful or intrinsically valuable. The Honus Wagner card is such an example as is a 1962 Spider-man comic book. Most of us don't have the disposable income to buy a gun that will accrue in value over the decades more than an Anschutz 1710. I think most of us would prefer a rifle that we can use; and if it keeps much of its value, like a 1710 can, we can be doubly pleased as it will shoot very well also.
 
RabidM4U5 said:
It is, if that is all you are looking at. Then you look at the price tag and compare it to what you're getting for your dollar vs other manufacturers. It's in the price range of an Anschütz 1710 sporter rifle.

Wood quality: We'll need to see a few more of the 452 GF's to set a standard, this one looks nice but I'm not going "wow!". Anschütz consistently supplies beautiful stocks.

Action: Hands down no comparison, the Anschütz Match 54 action leaves the 452 in the dust.

Trigger: Plain Jane CZ trigger (really, they couldn't make a Mr. Fly for it?) vs. Anschütz 5096 D. I'll take the Annie please.

Barrel: I highly doubt CZ produced the barrels for the GF with a different or improved process making it subject to the wide variance in quality observed between individual rifles from them. I see Anschütz puts out barrels that consistently achieve a high standard of accuracy with a narrower range of individual variation.

When considering spending that sum of money I know I want the best value for it. The rifle should not only be beautiful but exceptionally accurate as well. The action and trigger should be the finest offering from the manufacturer and known for their excellence. Can anyone honestly say the CZ 452 Grand Finale is providing you that value for your money?

It is like a $2000 bottle of Scotch, really no better than the $200 bottle but commands it's sum because it is rare. Some people won't even drink such a bottle of Scotch if they own one, as I'm sure many who purchase a 452 GF will either display it or let it sit in the safe unfired. This edition is a collector's item not a performance piece and that's all there is to it. We all know how crazy the price can be for anything "collectable", imagine if the 452 GF came with an unopened Vinyl Cape Jawa Star Wars figurine? ;) :rolleyes:
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Plus a borescope in a hand tooled leather case "LOL" :)

R
 
ronnie01 said:
Plus a borescope in a hand tooled leather case "LOL" :)

R
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Is this a Baa-zinga moment?

They are what they are, tools to enjoy and if one chooses to shoot it .
Then so be it.

How many Winchester 94 Comemeratives are out there and what sort of money are they getting for guns that are no where limited to how many they produced.

Comparing the Annie 1710 to either the 1 of 1000 or a box stock CZ 22 in American Hunter configuration is like comparing Oranges to Limes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXpSg1e8ljo About $2100Aud....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk42ZHswewA Around $400.00 Us Dollars

Ford , Chevy, Dodge the age old question remains.
Whats your flavor?

Hey Trout from loogie lake, whens your parcel arrive?

Rob
 
FLHTCUI said:
Is this a Baa-zinga moment?
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Maybe for CZ, since ya need a borescope to tell if you have a lame dog from them :rolleyes: If there is a dig towards me, I don't see it. My own CZ troubles may have pushed me towards owning a borescope (I have a mind that has to know why things are the way they are) but I love it and use it every time I clean my rifles. It has become an essential part of my cleaning regime.

FLHTCUI said:
They are what they are, tools to enjoy and if one chooses to shoot it .
Then so be it.

Comparing the Annie 1710 to either the 1 of 1000 or a box stock CZ 22 in American Hunter configuration is like comparing Oranges to Limes.

Rob
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But would you buy a Lime at Orange prices?

Either way, if you've got the cash and are comfortable spending it on whatever.... it's your own business what gives you pleasure. Whether the 452 GF makes you smile every time you walk into the room where you've hung it on the wall, or once a month when you carefully take it out of the safe for a clean and polish, or on your weekly range trip, or hunting adventures, or makes someone in your family rich when you die and they inherit an unfired 100% condition Grand Finale.... all that matters is you're getting the enjoyment you seek.

For what I value in a firearm, this one wouldn't make me happy. I'd only pay $1000 CDN max for it, as that is what the fancier stock and engravings are worth to me. I'm not such a CZ fanboy that the "last of the last" 452's means anything to me. I value performance above "collector's value", as demonstrated with my Weatherby XXII acquisition last year. I paid less in CDN than it will sell for in USD, it is a prized collector's item and mine was lightly used in excellent condition. I wasn't happy with the performance and bedded it, that alone kills collector's value big time even if it is well done and beneficial. Now it is re-barreled with an Annie 1416 barrel, so kiss all value goodbye! Do I care in the slightest? Not really, because I am now very happy with the performance and it does not matter to me how much money somebody gets for it when I die. My pleasure is using this fine, beautiful rifle and getting excellent performance out of it :)

Whatever floats yer boat.
 
RabidM4U5 said:
Maybe for CZ, since ya need a borescope to tell if you have a lame dog from them :rolleyes: If there is a dig towards me, I don't see it. My own CZ troubles may have pushed me towards owning a borescope (I have a mind that has to know why things are the way they are) but I love it and use it every time I clean my rifles. It has become an essential part of my cleaning regime.

Hey Myke :stirthepot2: OMG no comradery allowed now what ! It is known that some dogs don't hunt. We are doomed with "thoze" CZ'S I have a barrel that has some quirks but will get it to shoot just won't say how much $ it may take."LOL"

R
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Donny Fenn1 said:
i have one, bought it from Russells in Calgary before they closed
pretty much my favorite gopher gun
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So YOU'RE the guy with my rifle. Thanks allot. :)

BTW...I saw one of these rifles on RFC. Pretty spectacular specimen. Still too spendy for my modest budget, but to see that particular rifle is to want it.
 
grauhanen said:
With only 1000 made (so far), the engraving makes it more than ordinary. That description of the stock would seem understated as the wood is supposed to be specially selected for looks.

Perhaps not as "fancy" as the CZ 453 Premium, which was also engraved, with select wood, and a fluted barrel.
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I've got one of the 453 premiums. Awesome looking gun... Just can't bring myself to risk bashing it...
 
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