CZ 452 Vs CZ 453.

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CZ 452 Vs CZ 453.

Correct me if im wrong but from what I saw the only difference between the varmint models 452 Vs the varmint model 453 is the set trigger.

The 452 LR sells for $469 and the same thing in 453 model is $639 at WWS.
Is the set trigger that good to spend that much in addition?
I would love to hear some opinions of some owners of the 453 model.
 
Howdy

The 453, the 2 action screws are in the action, in other words, the barrel free floats. I own a 453 varmint and love it. With Eley Standard "brown Box" it can put 5 shots at 50M in one tiny clover leaf, you can cover with a thumb tack.

All the pictures I've seen of the 452, one of the actions screws, screws into a block that is notched into the barrel. It's not a free floating barrel.

I'd get another 453 in an instant. The trigger is adjustible, set it and forget it. It works:dancingbanana:

Sticker
 
The better action screw arrangement and better trigger adjustments made it a no-brainer for me. The 453 Varmint is a much better gun, well worth the price difference. A 452 with a trigger kit in it certainly can get rid of creep, but it doesn't always get rid of all of it. With the 453 trigger you can always dial out all the creep you want, 100% of the time, since that's one of its adjustments. With the 452 and a trigger kit's shim tubes it is a gamble, and depends on the manufacturing tolerances of the trigger itself and the shim tubes. I've put them in guns where the thickest tube was too thick and the trigger would no longer set at all, and where the thickest tube wasn't thick enough and it still had noticable creep. But the 453's range of adjustment far surpasses the point where you have zero creep and where the trigger will no longer set. You can set it up with the exact amount of creep that you want. Plus you get an overtravel adjustment, which the 452 does not have, period. And you get the set mode, on top of that. The 452 Varmint is a nice gun, but the 453 Varmint is even nicer.
 
I have heard that due to the 453's trigger arrangement it has a noticeably longer 'lock time' - the time between the trigger break and the primer ignition - which leads to reduced accuracy, can you comment?

~ Ian
 
Well, lock time comes into play more during times when your shooting position is less stable. If you're shooting from the bench, it's not as important, as the chances of you moving the gun are minimal. If you're shooting while standing, it's very important, as the chances of the gun moving are obviously much greater.

In unset mode the lock time shouldn't be any different than the 452, really. But in set mode it will be a bit higher, since there is more going on. When you pull the set trigger it takes a certain amount of time for it to fly back and release the sear. Whether or not this increase in lock time is going to affect you depends on you and what you're doing. I wouldn't consider the change in lock time a deal breaker, since you're likely to be using the set mode in different circumstances than unset mode, and it may not even make any difference in the end anyway.
 
Well that $170 is quite a bit to upgrade to the 453. At the time I bought my 452 I think there was a bit of a wait also for the 453 as they were new and I didn't want to wait. I did a bit of research and found the website where the guy sells trigger kits for the 452. I ended up finding a spring at Home Depot IIRC that fit and now I have a trigger so light that if you blow on it it goes off! It's not a trigger for new shooters and if you bump the gun without the safety on it will go off. Still it was a lot cheaper than the difference in price.

That being said... if I was buying new again, I would be trying both out at your local gun store. See if you like the set trigger or not. Do you really need it?


Fudd
 
Well, pull weight isn't the only thing you can change about a trigger. As stated earlier, you can adjust more aspects of the trigger with the 453's trigger, things that you either can't adjust as finely, or even adjust at all, with the 452's trigger. Plus, the trigger isn't the only difference.
 
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