CZ 455 FS with Leupold VX-2 1-4x20mm *opinions please*

For small game at 20 yards the 1-4X20 is fine... for shooting paper at 50 yards it is seriously handicapped. A couple thoughts; the bolt throw on your CZ makes the straight tube scope pointless, with the taller ring you might as well use a scope of 28mm+... a straight tube scope mounted in medium rings hardly looks good to my eye.

On my Ruger RSI's I have the Leupold VX-2 3-9X33mm EFR, it is a really nice balance of wide field of view with enough magnification for tiny groups at 50 yards. It is also quite light and compact.


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CZ options with VX-2 3-9X40 & VX-2 4-12X40... you will notice that the longer scope on the FS comes into conflict with the rear sight, necessitating higher rings... shorter tube length scopes avoid this issue;

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I've got a few 452FS rifles and have a 2-7x28RF Leupold in Warne QD rings. I can get a decent sight picture with it located low, and just behind the tangent sight with enough room for the front cap to flip up. This scope on 7x is challenging for itty bitty groups at 50, but it would not miss any furred or feathered varmint.
 
PGW Steve said:
I've got a few 452FS rifles and have a 2-7x28RF Leupold in Warne QD rings. I can get a decent sight picture with it located low, and just behind the tangent sight with enough room for the front cap to flip up. This scope on 7x is challenging for itty bitty groups at 50, but it would not miss any furred or feathered varmint.
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A much better option than the 1-4 on this rifle, IMO.
 
PGW Steve said:
I've got a few 452FS rifles and have a 2-7x28RF Leupold in Warne QD rings. I can get a decent sight picture with it located low, and just behind the tangent sight with enough room for the front cap to flip up. This scope on 7x is challenging for itty bitty groups at 50, but it would not miss any furred or feathered varmint.
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The 2-7 x 28 Leupold Rimfire is probably the best scope option for the CZ 452/5 Full Stock if you care to mount your scope low and get the best cheek weld possible...and don't mind the shorter eye relief that comes with this scope. The scope also "looks right" on this rifle. I have it mounted on my 452 FS with the lowest rings I could find, the bottom of the scope tube is only 0.310 above the CZ dovetail and there is still 0.060-0.100 of clearance between the bolt and the ocular.
I have attempted to mount a 3-9x33 Leupold Rimfire on the same rifle. It doesn't fit, unless you either remove the rear sight, or mount it high in order to clear the rear sight which kind of defeats the benefit of the small ocular.
Kody

PS: I personally love the looks of the VX2 1-4 Leupold on the FS and am tempted to give it a try myself. Based on the 452 (not 455!) scope mounting data that I collected measuring my own set ups, I can mount a VX2 non-rimfire scope 0.380 high and safely clear the bolt on my 452FS. That's only 0.070 higher than my current set up with a 2-7X28. Word of caution, this measurement is specific to my CZ rifles only, with the way I zoom my VX2 ocular (mine is "unscrewed" quite a bit to make it fit my eyesight and that helps with the bolt clearance...)!
 
I have the Leupold VX2 1-4x20mm on my CZ 453.

It is strictly used for 10 - 75 m range.

I would say it's the ideal for this application.

I tend to shoot around 25m mostly but at 4 times, 50 - 75 m is perfect.

For rings, I've got Talley 22CZRH rings mounted.




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this is a fun thread. the 3-9x33efr is absolutely a great rimfire scope (as is the 2-7x28). I have 2. an AO scope is not the best choice for hunting though, IMO. I completely agree that a 1-4 isn't a great choice for punching paper at 50 yards (if the smallest possible groups are desired), but then neither is a 3-9 (at least with my eyes). even though not ideal, trying to make tiny groups at 50 yards with a 4x scope can still be a lot of fun, which the most important part.

do what makes you happy... you can always switch it out in the future.
 
Really great info in here guys, lots of points to consider. I think at 4x it will be ideal for what I want to use it for and although it won't be the best tool for making tight groups at 50m, I would enjoy the challenge while still having it work well for my 10-30m hunting. I agree with BeanKozi that an adjustable AO would not be ideal for hunting but I enjoy having one on my target air rifle.

Hoytcanon- You raise some good practical points and those rifles look fantastic, thanks for posting them up!

Cableguy, thanks for the pic! Im wondering if low rings would work for my 455 but it seems mediums are what people recommend...
 
Cbf123 said:
Something to consider....the VX-2 1-4x20 appears to have the parallax set for 150yd. If you're shooting at 10, then the image of the target may not be as sharp as you'd like.
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That's correct and is a reason to consider a scope with AO even for hunting. Although it's true that parallax is less of a problem at lower magnification (like 4-power), it's a complete non-problem with AO. It's not that you're going to be twiddling the AO ring while hunting; instead, you'd set the parallax setting to what you think will be your average range in the terrain in which you're hunting and just leave it. That way, any departure from that range will result in almost no parallax. The other option would be to send the VX-2 1-4X20 to Leupold (or, I guess, Korth here in Canada) and have the parallax changed from the normal 150 yards to whatever you think is about your average hunting range--something like 40-50 yards perhaps. The cost for this is minimal and would convert that scope (designed for big-game applications) to a much better rimfire small-game hunting scope.
 
I had a vxii 1-4x20 on my deer rifle for the thick woods here in the east. Field of view was awesome, but once I got it into the timber I quickly lost my love for it, may as well been in a closet, so dark it was useless. It left my possession shortly after that.
 
I don't get how an AO scope is not good for hunting? You can always set it for infinity, but for small game, I set it at 25 yards and only move it if necessary... which is rarely required.

OP, after 40 years of shooting scoped rimfire rifles, I think that you are going to regret your decision to go with the VX-2 1-4X20.
 
South Pender said:
Leupold VX-2 3-9X33 mm Rimfire EFR model.

https://www.leupold.com/hunting-sho...alight-riflescopes/vx-2-3-9x33mm-rimfire-efr/
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^^Nice rimfire scope. Unfortunately, I don't have a rifle worthy of wearing one (right now) and what I do own(rimfires) cost less than the scope.
For my general plinking needs inside 50yrds I use a fixed 4x Simmons 22mag scope on my 13"bbl JW15. For longer range I have a Tasco 6-24x AO mounted on a Marlin. The scope must be good for hunting because it's the Varmint model:)

I really should focus more on rimfire vs centerfire rifles. Some days I just don't want/need the heavy recoil and rather just plink. Must be old age creeping up.....
 
johNTO said:
I really should focus more on rimfire vs centerfire rifles. Some days I just don't want/need the heavy recoil and rather just plink. Must be old age creeping up.....
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In that case, I must be getting old too!
I shoot probably 100 rounds of 22 for every round of centerfire these days. A good quality rifle and optics makes it much more enjoyable IMO.
 
Really appreciate the replies and the words of caution regarding magnification. Thank you everyone for the very helpful replies.
 
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