CZ 455 or Savage Mark II?

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I'm thinking about using my tax return for a new rimfire. At the moment I only have a ruger 10/22. I want somthing to shoot tiny groups, my ruger is pretty good put want to jump to a bolt gun. The two I've narrowed it down to are a CZ 455 varmint or a Savage Mark II. I was just curious about about opinions on both such as the value/trigger/action etc.

What should I buy?!
 
Its up to you there both great guns i guess i depends on how much you get back. If you get $400 buy a Savage if you get $650 buy a Cz and if you get $1500 buy them both decide which one you like more then sell the other one in the EE for mor than what you paid. But i like savage but am going to buy a CZ just to try one out oneday.
 
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IMO, The CZ is really for those who appreciate a nice wooden bolt action experience, I do and have one. I have one hunting 22. so i choose to make that a nice visceral experience. I like to feel how the bolt slides, and appreciate the craftsmanship put into the gun.

The Savage is a fine gun, but for the next 50 years, I'd like to look forward to my 22. hunting experience. The CZ offers that "treat" experience I value. I really like to work the bolt on my CZ and I'm not sure Savage owners are having that same "chick-chick" love affair.

If you amortize the value over the life of the gun, IMO the CZ offers a better return on value. In 50 years, I will be almost 90, and the CZ will still be a quality, pass it on to your son kind of experience. In 50 years the Savage will still be a Savage ,accurate but more of a factory feel.
 
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Cz - the trigger was abit heavy but thats easily fixed... and real wood ! very good looking rifle ... its the 22 that i alway dreamed of owning and i'd never sell

i'd like to buy more ...
 
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No regrets on my purchase. Accurate, and with a Yodave trigger kit the trigger is perfect. I mean perfect, zero creep and exactly the pull I want (1 lb 4 oz).
 
The first two .22 LR rifles I bought here in the late 90s were a Ruger 10-22 and CIL Anschutz Single shot boltie. Sold both soon after and got two CZ 452s, Style and Varmint. No regrets and enjoy shooting them.

Then a slew of forgettable brands/models that came and went. The CZs stayed and will hopefully be family heirlooms together with my fairly recent acquisitions, a pair of Winchester 69As.

My Marlins/Savages are nice, but do not possess the level of quality I'd be proud to pass on to my descendants.

Bottom line, buy the CZ now, better a 452 or 453 if you can find them, than the 455, JMHO. BTW, a CZ452 LUX was on the EE couple days ago for 350.

Unless you really like to hunt varmints at longer than .22LR ranges, better stick with .22LR for ammo variety and affordability. You certainly want to shoot your CZ a lot don't you?
 
I bought a Savage Mk II 22lr today! I previously owned a laser accurate Savage 93 BTVS 17HMR.
The Savage Mk II is the most accurate production 22lr and, in tests, systematically beats the CZs and Ruger bolt-actions.

I'm an accuracy nut and will upgrade to a more accurate Anschutz rifle as soon as I can afford one.

Alex
 
The Savage Mk II is the most accurate production 22lr
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Anschutz, and Cooper are production rifles, and I wouldn't bet that the Savage will bet either. I wouldn't even bet that the Savage will beat my Volquartsen in an accuracy contest.
 
You made a mention of value, I think for $200, the savage mkII is a great value, I'd buy it again in a heartbeat. I have handled and shot(briefly) a cz, and did not notice the bolt feeling much different, though the trigger was heavier on the cz. The wood and finish on the cz is certainly nicer. Also made in Canada(the savage, not the CZ), which is nice.

My savage mkII is my cheapest gun but easily one of my favourites.
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If you're considering spending more on a CZ, have you looked into the browning T-bolt? Pretty nice looking rifle, what I would buy in the over $400 range
 
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Thanks for all the opinions. My price range is gonna be around the $800 mark with a scope, but the more leftover for some 762X39 the better. Me and the wife have a baby on the way and this will be my last purchase for a while so I just want to do this right.

The T-Bolt looks nice, I haven't looked at the brownings. Hopefully they will have a few at the TO sportsman show to handle this weekend.
 
Congratulations on the baby.
Here's a different idea: get the cz scout: reports are they are at least as accurate as other cz's. You can pass it to the kid later as a bonus.
 
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Thanks for all the opinions. My price range is gonna be around the $800 mark with a scope, but the more leftover for some 762X39 the better. Me and the wife have a baby on the way and this will be my last purchase for a while so I just want to do this right.
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Having a baby on the way does change one's perspective. If it were me, I'd get a Savage MKIIF or G (depends on your personal taste in stocks...plastic or wood). My F shoots almost or better than my CZs on some days. At this time, family is more important.

An F with a half-decent scope and the leftover cash for .22LR/7.62 Russian ammo is my suggestion.

Watch the EE and you might get lucky like I did, my almost mint MKIIF/Bushnell 3-9X32AO, two 10-rd mags and rigid plastic rifle case was $200 shipped and insured. 1.5 inch groups at 100 meters with bulk Winchester Dynapoints are easy, 1 inch groups happen on a really good day.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367574
 
Here's another vote for the Savage Mk II. I shot mine for the first time today (brand new gun), and even my buddy with 2 Annies was impressed with its accuracy. After shooting mine, he's talking about buying one for himself.

I have a few guns with beautiful walnut stocks, but I'm always nervous even taking them to the range - let it rest on an empty brass case, and it leaves a mark. The plastic stock, on the other hand - seems tough as nails, don't need to worry about it, and I actually found it quite comfortable to use. Who knows, I may get a Boyds for it someday...or maybe not!

Oh, and for me, on a "limited budget", I got the whole rifle package with 3-9X40 Bushnell scope, brand new, for $189. For a CZ, with even a base-level scope, I'd be nudging at least $600. I just couldn't afford to spend (or justify) the extra $400.

And, as easyrider604 says, the gun seems to love Winchester Dynapoint (bulk) ammo - mine's shooting under 5/8" 10-shot groups at 50 yards - so, they are seriously accurate, right out of the box.
 
I have had both the CZ 455 and the Savage BTVS in .22LR. I can honestly say that I love the feel and look of the CZ but the savage fits me better. as to the accuracy of the savage heavy barrel. today at the range With Fiocchi crn22 $3 a box ammo I was consistently one hole at 50m. 2" spinners at 100m and 3" spinners with wicked hold over at 200m from a box stock .22lr. I shoot with guys in comps all the time who have Annie's Walthers and others and the savage is every bit as accurate. My money is on the Savage for the price and the quality you can't beat them. As far as there lineage goes a have savage rifles from before cz was ever on the north American market and they still shoot great.
 
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