CZ 455 Quality?
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Love my 455 Lux. Originally purchased as a .22LR Supermatch, barrel was swapped out to a .17hmr, and a yodave trigger kit was installed. Topped it with a Redfield 3-9x40 on some Talley CZ rings, and put a Harris 13" bipod under it. It's a blast popping gophers at 150+yards with this thing.
Colloidal silica is probably the best, easily found epoxy thickening agent. It can be found in most marine repair stores. Comes from "West System" and other sources. Milled glass or microbaloons work ok too. The spacer tubes look interesting. I prefer pillars with much larger id (7 mm) so the action screws (5.5 mm dia) have enough clearance and don't touch the inside of the pillar when the action and bottom metal are installed. Perhaps you drill the spacer out using a lathe?
Kody
Here u go http://www.westsystem.com/ss/403-microfibers
Can be had at http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=20016&cat=1,110,42965,20016
I have used it. Works well. I don't use it with jb but you could.
R
Yes, colloidal silica is very good for thickening epoxy. The pillars work great with the 6mm action screws. I've pillared three CZ stocks with them.
Maybe the link you have provided has changed or is not correct....https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00H8VJ72G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It says: Inner Diameter : 5.5mm;
The 5.5 mm action screws won't fit into a pillar with inner dia of 5.5 mm. Even if they fit they will touch the pillar walls for sure? That was the reason why I asked if you drill them out? Maybe you use a larger size?
Kody
(Kody quote)I prefer pillars with much larger id (7 mm) so the action screws (5.5 mm dia) have enough clearance and don't touch the inside of the pillar when the action and bottom metal are installed. Perhaps you drill the spacer out using a lathe?
To overcome this you drill the pillars with just enough clearance for a slip fit. Epoxy the pillars in and let it cure. When cured drill to the required clearance and they will be perfectly centered with no interference. Maybe 6mm i don't remember.Real easy just buy a 6mm drill bit and use your cordless drill.The bit will follow the first hole no problem.
R
To overcome this you drill the pillars with just enough clearance for a slip fit. Epoxy the pillars in and let it cure. When cured drill to the required clearance and they will be perfectly centered with no interference. Maybe 6mm i don't remember.Real easy just buy a 6mm drill bit and use your cordless drill.The bit will follow the first hole no problem.
R
Perhaps the link has changed. I linked the item Amazon says I previously purchased. In any case the spacers have quite enough room for the action screws. I bought two packages and have enough stock for several lifetimes of material to make pillars. I made two pillars out of one tube and there were 20 tubes in a package. Kody and Ronnie01, PM me if you would like me to send you some.
Action screw diameter
Action screw inside the pillar (unmodified stock tube)
That requires the hole in stock to be drilled to 7/16" .4375" Not a fun job to do as the holes have a slot in them.Easy with a mill not so easy without one.
R
Are you a cheek weld expert?
No, I am not kidding at all....perhaps if you explain what you call "the standard stock" it will make more sense. Do you have a picture of your current set up to share? From your latest comment I can only guess that you have a hogback style stock with open sights??? If you have a big scope and need to mount it high over the rear sight than I understand your dilemma.
This is my 452FS set up. The distance between the top of the CZ dovetail and the bottom of the scope tube is 0.310 in. No cheek riser required...but I am not a cheek weld expert
Kody
This is the "varmint" or a standard stock for most rifles here in NA....
I may not be an expert, but I know how to fit a firearm...We all have different shaped heads, also find different positioning of our head comfortable (this is why the ruger precision can cant/tilt its cheek comb back and fourth as well as move up, down, forward and back). The stock was not at an adequate high for proper cheek positioning for myself. It would have been fine for irons. It was about an inch and a bit too low for my optic... Doesn't help the bolt throw is so damn high thus making me use high rings, also fueling my doubtfulness that they are to "lend" themselves to scoped rifles...
A drill press does it right. A hand-held drill is probably not a good idea for precise work.
I fell very comfortable with my setup on my 452.
I don't feel like its too low.
A couple friends and shooters tried this rifle and no one told me its too low.
To each their own, I think you like very high cheekrest.
Most people are happy with the *standard stock* cheek height.
For the 455 quallity, I had a Varmint model in .22lr and I sold it to buy this 452.
Quality is almost the same.
Some will like the barrel swap option of the 455 but I better like the threaded barrels.
Is it more accurate ? Hmmm, maybe, maybe not... If you take a look at the 50y 1/2 inch challenge thread, there is a couple of 452's.
The only thing I can see its better made on my 455 was the stock checkering.
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I have a 455 Lux. I love it.
I went with a Bushnell Legend 4.5 x 14 x 42 with a mildot reticle in extra high rings.
I put on a strap on cheek pad on the stock so that I have a good cheek weld.
It has a Yodave trigger kit in it.
I had a newby shooter out with it and he was shooting 12 gauge shotgun shells at 100 yards off a front rest. He couldn't believe the accuracy and the crisp trigger pull.
I went with a Bushnell Legend 4.5 x 14 x 42 with a mildot reticle in extra high rings.
I put on a strap on cheek pad on the stock so that I have a good cheek weld.
It has a Yodave trigger kit in it.
I had a newby shooter out with it and he was shooting 12 gauge shotgun shells at 100 yards off a front rest. He couldn't believe the accuracy and the crisp trigger pull.
Perhaps the link has changed. I linked the item Amazon says I previously purchased. In any case the spacers have quite enough room for the action screws. I bought two packages and have enough stock for several lifetimes of material to make pillars. I made two pillars out of one tube and there were 20 tubes in a package. Kody and Ronnie01, PM me if you would like me to send you some.
Action screw diameter
Action screw inside the pillar (unmodified stock tube)
Yup, that makes more sense; its more like 7 mm i.d.+/- and not 5.5 as advertized on the Amazon link.
Kody
In the past I have found that some 22 LR's need a fair bit of ammo before they settle down to decent groups. With the 452 LUX the only addition to OEM is a 3X9-40 that shoots better then I thought it would as a new unit. I don't expect to do any mod till it's shot at least 200 or more rounds. Put a few bullet holes through bullet holes and that was impressive. May go for a 455 later.
