Cz 457 first impressions

There is no such thing as a good quick change barrel system.

If you can change it quick, it will move quick and will not hold zero.

In this case it's just a rimfire, but it's even worse on center fire.

Sako Quad.
 
I have been doing some research, trying to find a quality, not made from gold .22 if even possible. So far I have learnt it's impossible. Every brand I have searched has problems. RPR rimfire, new CZ's, cheap Savage Mark 2's and the newer versions.. It's a bit disheartening to say the least. Looks like the Sako quad might have better quality control, but if I search hard enough I'm sure they have issues? maybe not?
I shoot a CZ452 varmint in HMR. It has been very good, had the trigger done, and bedded. The only thing I dislike is the high bolt lift. When I first saw the new CZ's I was super excited about the 457 Pro Varmint, not in a big rush to purchase something so hopefully all the bugs and internet talk smooths out on them before I am ready to purchase something.

CZ 457 owners, looking forward to your reviews and results.
 
I have been doing some research, trying to find a quality, not made from gold .22 if even possible. So far I have learnt it's impossible. Every brand I have searched has problems. RPR rimfire, new CZ's, cheap Savage Mark 2's and the newer versions.. It's a bit disheartening to say the least. Looks like the Sako quad might have better quality control, but if I search hard enough I'm sure they have issues? maybe not?
I shoot a CZ452 varmint in HMR. It has been very good, had the trigger done, and bedded. The only thing I dislike is the high bolt lift. When I first saw the new CZ's I was super excited about the 457 Pro Varmint, not in a big rush to purchase something so hopefully all the bugs and internet talk smooths out on them before I am ready to purchase something.

CZ 457 owners, looking forward to your reviews and results.

I did a long winded review with lots of pictures, I believed the title on the thread is bye bye Tikka T1x
 
Only two?

Faaack.... I'll add you to the list :)

I am incognito.... my Unicorn arrived today... 3/5 of the Olympic Walthers.... 2 more to go, and it will be complete.

Something to note. I now know there are 3 match triggers that look similar but are totally different in operation.

1. UIT Trigger. Can be doubled using the plunger. Single Stage
2. Laufenschiebe Trigger. Single stage only.
3 GX1 Trigger. 2 Stage and measured in grams.... ounces need not apply.
 
I have both the CZ452 and CZ527 and absolutely adore them. Not a file mark or anything out of place. Fit and finish are so typical of European manufacturing. My CZ85 9mm is a nicely put together pistol and is a delight to shoot. I am left handed so the 85 has controls on both sides. I tried to get lefties in other brands but was told months to years of waiting. CZ was several days. It was a big win for me. The 452 has put a lot of grouse and wabbits in the freezer.
 
I have both the CZ452 and CZ527 and absolutely adore them. Not a file mark or anything out of place. Fit and finish are so typical of European manufacturing. My CZ85 9mm is a nicely put together pistol and is a delight to shoot. I am left handed so the 85 has controls on both sides. I tried to get lefties in other brands but was told months to years of waiting. CZ was several days. It was a big win for me. The 452 has put a lot of grouse and wabbits in the freezer.

The FNH FNS9 is ambidextrous, accurate, very high level of quality of build and has similar ergos to the 1911. Can usually be found on the EE for cheap. Sorry for the hijack.
 
Faaack.... I'll add you to the list :)

I am incognito.... my Unicorn arrived today... 3/5 of the Olympic Walthers.... 2 more to go, and it will be complete.

Something to note. I now know there are 3 match triggers that look similar but are totally different in operation.

1. UIT Trigger. Can be doubled using the plunger. Single Stage
2. Laufenschiebe Trigger. Single stage only.
3 GX1 Trigger. 2 Stage and measured in grams.... ounces need not apply.

This is not meant to be argumentative. Perhaps your Walther single stage triggers are among a few exceptions. There were some early Walthers, early sixties, that had a plunger type trigger seen most often on the KKJ-T. Among them was a long, heavy barreled model that was over 12lbs. The Walther match triggers used in models such as the UIT Spezial, KKM, KK Metallic Silhouette are two stage triggers. The GX1, which is the name often used in North America for the Walther KK Match, has the same trigger used in many other Walthers. The following images are from the owners manual of the GX1/KK Match, available on pdf. The table shows the same type of trigger for all the models listed, with the exception of the electronic trigger of the UIT-E Universal. As an illustration of the ubiquity of the same model trigger used across a variety of rifles, consider the Anschutz 5018 trigger, which is used in almost all 18xx, 19xx, and 20xx series rifles, as well as the 54.30. When a manufacturer has a good trigger, like both Walther and Anschutz, they put it on many models, and the Walther match trigger is a very good one indeed.
 

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This is not meant to be argumentative. Perhaps your Walther single stage triggers are among a few exceptions. There were some early Walthers, early sixties, that had a plunger type trigger seen most often on the KKJ-T. Among them was a long, heavy barreled model that was over 12lbs. The Walther match triggers used in models such as the UIT Spezial, KKM, KK Metallic Silhouette are two stage triggers. The GX1, which is the name often used in North America for the Walther KK Match, has the same trigger used in many other Walthers. The following images are from the owners manual of the GX1/KK Match, available on pdf. The table shows the same type of trigger for all the models listed, with the exception of the electronic trigger of the UIT-E Universal. As an illustration of the ubiquity of the same model trigger used across a variety of rifles, consider the Anschutz 5018 trigger, which is used in almost all 18xx, 19xx, and 20xx series rifles, as well as the 54.30. When a manufacturer has a good trigger, like both Walther and Anschutz, they put it on many models, and the Walther match trigger is a very good one indeed.


I have the same literature and original owners manuals. I was under the impression there were only 2 styles of match trigger as well. I’ll take some snaps later for perusal, but one thing it does show is that Walther was antithetically un-Teutonic about accurate information, changes, and production.

At any rate, this weekend will be awesome. I have some ammo to test, good stuff and middle ranges. A good rest in front and a decent rearset. I doubt I will play with the GX trigger. It takes your breath away. I thought the Laufenschiebe was the best. I stand corrected.
 
I have the same literature and original owners manuals. I was under the impression there were only 2 styles of match trigger as well. I’ll take some snaps later for perusal, but one thing it does show is that Walther was antithetically un-Teutonic about accurate information, changes, and production.

At any rate, this weekend will be awesome. I have some ammo to test, good stuff and middle ranges. A good rest in front and a decent rearset. I doubt I will play with the GX trigger. It takes your breath away. I thought the Laufenschiebe was the best. I stand corrected.

Hope you'll post some photos of the process, and end results! Congrats on the rifle too!
 
Ryan @ IBI barrels took our shop Manager's new 457 20" MTR out and put 150 rounds through it. Barrel has all the markings everyone is talking about. Will post some more pics in a bit.
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