CZ 457 or Ruger 10/22?
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There's a minimum length of barrel needed to give space for all the powder in the cartridge to burn, IIRC that's about 16 inches. Too short a barrel and incomplete burns could contribute to more velocity variation shot to shot. FWIW, benchrest competitors tend to use 24-26 inch long barrels. If you're using iron sights, a longer barrel gives a longer sight radius and can help you as a shooter be more precise with your aiming. Heavy barrels are more rigid and so have reduced vertical spread compared to their sporter profile counterparts, and tend to shoot a wider range of ammo with decent to good results. Sporter barrels can be "picky" about the loads that perform well in them, so more ammo testing may be necessary. With the ideal load, there is no difference in accuracy potential between heavy and sporter.
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I'll try the 457 first. Which dealer has the best pricing? Any good Boxing Day sale rumours? Or. What's a good used price for one of these?
I switched it up and I'm thinking a synthetic stock would be best but I also notice a bunch of just the stock for sale on another site, are they not great? Why or what are people replacing them with?
I'll try the 457 first. Which dealer has the best pricing? Any good Boxing Day sale rumours? Or. What's a good used price for one of these?
I switched it up and I'm thinking a synthetic stock would be best but I also notice a bunch of just the stock for sale on another site, are they not great? Why or what are people replacing them with?
Canada being what it is, this could be one of the only times I might suggest a 10/22 first. Not that I think anything the Liberals have done recently will be sticking around, but nobody on this site would bet a bolt action 22 would get banned before a semi.
I do believe the 457 is a far better rifle than the 10/22 in every respect, and if you were only going to be a 1 x 22LR kind of person-just get the CZ.
If you haven't already, take a look at the Tikka T1x too. I'd reach for a Tikka before the CZ but they're both excellent rifles.
I do believe the 457 is a far better rifle than the 10/22 in every respect, and if you were only going to be a 1 x 22LR kind of person-just get the CZ.
If you haven't already, take a look at the Tikka T1x too. I'd reach for a Tikka before the CZ but they're both excellent rifles.
Ruger is minute of gopher, CZ is minute of gopher head. It depends on end use of riffle, cans and such or an accurate field gun. If you plan on shooting cheap ammo it will mater less. My pick is CZ all the way.
MDT chassis is a pretty common choice for 457 - they have a variety of choices and price points.
That being said, for hunting, gophers, and offhand plinking I would buy a CZ with a nice stock and not replace - I love the CZ wood stocks. The synthetic is a popular choice for people who just want the barreled action and are going to swap it out.
Sort of. if you are going to shoot iron sights, the longer the better as it gives you a long sight radius for more precise aiming. 16-18" should give you as complete a burn as possible. CZ claimed that the extra long Jaguar barrel stabilized high velocity hunting ammo better than shorter barrels. Longer barrels, particularly varmint weight, should theoretically be more stable and provide a better balance for certain types of shooting. I have a 20" bull barrel on mine, and still need to add more weights out front.
No simple answer. LOL
JMO, but if you go Used you want someone who "Moved Up" like to a Bergera, Vudoo or better. Otherwise you might get an 'average shooter' that 'lost the barrel lottery'. I have a VMTR that does .3-5-ish groups BUT I don't have a $500 ^ bench rest setup either. I'm quite happy with a bunch of .3-5s, while another shooter may want a 'Real Competition rig' that is consistent .2-3s and have one like mine 'on the block'.
And the 'bunch' of stocks are likely from people just moving up to a chassis system of some sort.
And the 'bunch' of stocks are likely from people just moving up to a chassis system of some sort.
As with any rifle, you're playing 'Barrel Lottery' until you go with custom barrels. Then you're 'buying performance', but you still need to be able to use it. Are you planning Competition ? I didn't get that from this thread. The Match from CZ is usually better than the 'standard' but you're still in the Lottery. Basically the chamber is cut to 'finer' specs, a couple hairs shorter so that the bullets 'engrave' and so don;'t have such a jump into the barrel. Less likely to f-up accuracy but then you're 'in the barrel' with all that entails. A lot depends on your focus - Casual targets or Competition. Then your budget . .
Casual targets, nothing serious. Sounds like the extra $700 is probably not necessary.
I’ll continue looking for a nice wood stock, 20” barrel and decent scope. Although the scope might come after. I don’t have a rimfire scope yet, my other 22s are iron sights. I’d like to try something besides Leupold.
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First of all, with CZ european made barrels, they are built to CIP standards. A CIP chamber is virtually identical to a SAAMI Match Standard. CZ US barrels may be built to SAAMI non match standard unless designated as a target barrel. European Barres have a 1/2-20 thread, US barrels have a 1/2-28 thread BTW. I have a CZ European 20" varmint; very snug chamber, and I had to shim the barrel out to increase head space as it was compressing the rim on TAC 22 and CCI SV. Does it ever shoot!!!!
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CZ MTR minute of good molecule lol
