CZ 457 Varmint MTR... How do you like yours? Ammo compatibility? 16in vs 20in?
- Thread starter CanuckShooter
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As others have noted, unlike in some other areas, in the case of a 16" v. 20" CZ factory barrel, length will not affect performance if both barrels are of equal quality.
As a plug for the 100 Yard .22LR Challenge, when a rifle like your T1X can regularly shoot sub-one inch ten-shot groups at 100, it would be great to see that as an entry in the challenge. It would be encouraging for other shooters.
As a plug for the 100 Yard .22LR Challenge, when a rifle like your T1X can regularly shoot sub-one inch ten-shot groups at 100, it would be great to see that as an entry in the challenge. It would be encouraging for other shooters.
machohugeaxe
Regular
- Location
- Peel Region, Ontario
I'm just a sucker for the nice wood stock for the cz mtr
I have an LRP model - very similar but with that grey, Bergara type stock. I preferred the permanent adjustment to the buttons on the Varmint stock (but I like the look of the wood better, I made a functional sacrifice). Love it. I've convinced at least one other member at my range to get one. A few other guys have tried it and they love it too.
1. How does your MTR do with cheaper ammo like CCI and Federal? Any chambering issues? Poor accuracy?
Federal was fine. CCI I almost always get an FTE on the last round in a mag (both 5 and 10).
2. Which ammo does your MTR excel with?
Funny enough, S&B Canadian match, followed by S&B green box. I've tried some more expensive brands and they have been fine.
3. Do you have the 16" or 20" barrel and what's your opinion on which is better?
20". I'm still a novice so don't have an informed opinion on this one. I did read that with .22lr, they extra 4" doesn't matter but I have a 20" barrel so...
4. How does your MTR shoot relative to your other 457s?
N/A. Though I am thinking of replacing my Savage (Cooey) with a 457. That's a luxury buy, have to get a .375H&H first (and maybe a 1911 in 45ACP, if I can find one)
5. Do you feel the positives of the match chamber outweigh any negatives? Would you buy it again if you could do it over?
Yes. The boys at my LGS said the match chamber was the thing to look for. Especially with me putting 150-200 rounds through it weekly.
You'll love it!
The question about barrel length vs. velocity was recently brought up by a longtime CZ poster on RFC. He reminded readers about a comparison he did with CZ's with different barrel lengths, and concluded that barrel length is largely irrelevant. See post #1 here h ttps://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/cz-rimfire-rifles-barrel-length-vs-velocity.1257616/
As a general observation, two barrels of the same length from the same manufacturer may easily produce different average muzzle velocities with the same ammo. In barrels that are within inches apart in length, the key to MV is the condition and characteristics of the bore.
As a general observation, two barrels of the same length from the same manufacturer may easily produce different average muzzle velocities with the same ammo. In barrels that are within inches apart in length, the key to MV is the condition and characteristics of the bore.
I've been shooting my 20" Savage MkII TR for a few years now and it's been very accurate with CCI SV's with an OK scope.
After reading threads like these I always get the itch to buy something new.....but then something else comes along.
After reading threads like these I always get the itch to buy something new.....but then something else comes along.
This has been my experience as well. Yours isn't an oddball.
As for looks, the Tikka action will accept any Tikka stock, including the walnut Hunter stock.
I've recently removed the irons and gone back to shooting it with a scope.
84wh1
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Mine is the 20”. First time out shooting it, I got the best groups with Norma ammunition. It currently has a Leupold mk3 HD 6-18 and magpul bipod (no longer wearing the Harris shown). Below groups were 50M prone without bags using only my support hand to support the ass end in the shoulder.
CanuckShooter
CGN frequent flyer
One thing I forgot to ask when I first posted this thread...
When you bought your MTR, was the barrel perfectly centered in the barrel channel of the stock (even gap on both sides), or was it leaning to one side? If it did start off centered, did that change over time as the wood expanded and contracted with the seasons?
Thanks
When you bought your MTR, was the barrel perfectly centered in the barrel channel of the stock (even gap on both sides), or was it leaning to one side? If it did start off centered, did that change over time as the wood expanded and contracted with the seasons?
Thanks
It was, but once I took it out and put it back in it wasn't, I simply hold it in the center of the chanel and torque the actions screws and it keeps it perfect every time now.
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- CAVE Isl, BC
My 20" barrel in the OEM wooden stock 'wandered' off-centre with lightly torqued action screws. Once it was centre aligned and 25 inch-pounds set, it stayed in centre. However, since I found the original funky stock somewhat cumbersome for unsupported shooting, I switched to a KRG Bravo chassis. This stock calls for near 45 inch-pounds of torque on the screws. Definitely no movement.
Hardhammer
CGN Regular
Same here !
Ended up grabbing a 20" this week. Can't wait to try it. Thanks to everyone who replied to this thread. Took a while, but I had to wait until they went on sale.
You will not be disappointed - feed it the best ammo you can afford and enjoy!
GunsNotPuns
CGN frequent flyer
1. How does your MTR do with cheaper ammo like CCI and Federal? Any chambering issues? Poor accuracy?
Only ever shot some CCI through it to rough sight some scopes before I used the good stuff to fine tune. No chambering issues, accuracy was okay.
2. Which ammo does your MTR excel with?
SK Standard Plus shot like an angel graced my rifle. Fortunately several places finally got some today and I bought a brick. Hopefully this lot shoots anywhere near as well.
3. Do you have the 16" or 20" barrel and what's your opinion on which is better?
20". In terms of accuracy? I doubt there's much of a difference.
4. How does your MTR shoot relative to your other 457s?
I only have one 457.
5. Do you feel the positives of the match chamber outweigh any negatives? Would you buy it again if you could do it over?
If there are negatives, I'm not aware of them. And heck yes, I would have bought one sooner.
Only ever shot some CCI through it to rough sight some scopes before I used the good stuff to fine tune. No chambering issues, accuracy was okay.
2. Which ammo does your MTR excel with?
SK Standard Plus shot like an angel graced my rifle. Fortunately several places finally got some today and I bought a brick. Hopefully this lot shoots anywhere near as well.
3. Do you have the 16" or 20" barrel and what's your opinion on which is better?
20". In terms of accuracy? I doubt there's much of a difference.
4. How does your MTR shoot relative to your other 457s?
I only have one 457.
5. Do you feel the positives of the match chamber outweigh any negatives? Would you buy it again if you could do it over?
If there are negatives, I'm not aware of them. And heck yes, I would have bought one sooner.
I purchased a brand new 16” 457 MTR 2 weeks ago today.
A CGN'er reached out to me about a local rimfire match.
I decided to attend.
There were 2 categories under 10.5lbs and over 10.5lbs.
My MTR with scope and Harris bipod attached weighed in at 9lbs 15.5oz.
The only modifications to the rifle were a YoDave trigger spring and an Area 419 bolt knob.
There were 3 of us shooting in the under 10.5lb class. The rest were in the 10.5+ class.
As far as I could tell all the rifles in the 10.5+ class were Anschutz with the exception of 2 (#802 and #901 were RimX).
Wind was gusting between 10-15mph.
With less than 500 rounds through the rifle and limited ammo testing I think I did pretty well.
Targets were shot with Lapua Center-X.
The right hand sighter on target #4 was shot with SK Rifle Match after I finished my match as I was waiting for others to finish.
3 rounds through 1 hole.
I need to do more testing with SK Rifle Match.
My takeaway from this match was that I need a lot more patience since I never took more than 10 minutes out of 30 to finish my targets.
A CGN'er reached out to me about a local rimfire match.
I decided to attend.
There were 2 categories under 10.5lbs and over 10.5lbs.
My MTR with scope and Harris bipod attached weighed in at 9lbs 15.5oz.
The only modifications to the rifle were a YoDave trigger spring and an Area 419 bolt knob.
There were 3 of us shooting in the under 10.5lb class. The rest were in the 10.5+ class.
As far as I could tell all the rifles in the 10.5+ class were Anschutz with the exception of 2 (#802 and #901 were RimX).
Wind was gusting between 10-15mph.
With less than 500 rounds through the rifle and limited ammo testing I think I did pretty well.
Targets were shot with Lapua Center-X.
The right hand sighter on target #4 was shot with SK Rifle Match after I finished my match as I was waiting for others to finish.
3 rounds through 1 hole.
I need to do more testing with SK Rifle Match.
My takeaway from this match was that I need a lot more patience since I never took more than 10 minutes out of 30 to finish my targets.
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waynewjw
CGN Regular
Have you looked at the 457 Varmint Precision Chassis rifles in 20” and 24” barrel lengths? Already have the precision chassis and upgrades from the factory. I shoot the 24” model at PRS matches and am very happy about the accuracy using SK or RWS ammo. Also like the Norma and Eley Clean ammo, although those were only 50 rd sample tryouts. You don’t need to buy the MTR, remove the stock and then spend another $500+ for the precision chassis unless you want to undertake that journey.
