CZ 527 Varmint in .223 availability

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Hey guys. I have a question for any owners or about to be owners of this rifle. Long story short, I really want to get my hands on one of these. If I type "CZ 527 Varmint" in Google, and click on the first link at the top of the page, I get this http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-527-varmint-223-rem-5-rd-mag-2/

But, if I go directly to this link: http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-527-euro-varmint-223-rem/ I don't see "DISCONTINUED" anywhere.

I called a local gun store in my area, who say they're out of stock, but show a list price for the rifle in their system. They're going to call their supplier on Tuesday to see how long it'll be before they can get the rifle in. I just hope I don't get a call saying, "CZ doesn't make it anymore". The 2 different CZ URL's are confusing.

CZ's NEW/Updated catalogue: http://cz-usa.com/hammer/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/cz-usa-2018-firearms-product-catalog.pdf if you scroll down to page 58/59, there's the CZ 527 Varmint in the bottom right hand corner.

Have any of you been able to get your hands on this rifle recently?

Are they difficult to bring in or something?

Much thanks.
 
Most CZ's in Canada come from CZ-UB in Europe and less so from CZ-USA. The CZ distributors in Canada source their product direct from CZ-UB. Grey market importers will bring up CZ-USA products from the US distributors.

The 527 Varmint is still in production and can be found in 223. https://www.czub.cz/en/produkty/kulovnice/lite/cz-527-varmint.html

Contact Wolverine Supplies - they're a Canadian distributor and retailer for CZ-UB, but most stores should be able to get it for you.
 
Much thanks for that info guys. Hmm, I'll see what our store says regarding delivery time. If it's too long to wait, maybe we'll just order directly from NorthPro. One question for any of you who have experience with .223 rifles, 1 in 9 twist vs 1 in 12 etc.

If I had the opportunity, I'd likely go for a Browning X-Bolt Medallion. My God their gorgeous rifles. The .223 model comes with a 1:12 twist rate.
The CZ 527 Varmint has a 1:9. We'll likely only be shooting Rem Freedom bucket .223 - it's all we'll be able to afford, and we don't load - as of yet.

For strictly shooting paper, using the Rem ammo 55 grain bulk FMJ, would we fare better shooting that ammo out of the X-Bolt with the 1:12 twist, or should we just go with the CZ with the 1:9 twist.

Again, it's very unlikely I'll ever hunt with this rifle. The Browning is so beautiful, whereas the CZ looks more business and practical. I really shouldn't care about the aesthetics. Whatever will work best for 55 grain, with X twist rate is the one I'd go for, but....

What would you guys say given the 2 options?

Again, thanks.
 
I just ordered the carbine synthetic 223 with the new style iron sights last week. Hope I like the rifle. My Tikka 1-8 twist 223 shoots cheap 55 just fine. I would personally not want a 1-12”
 
Worth seeking out. I have the 527 American (1:9" twist) and my dad has the Varmint (also 1:9") and they are great shooting guns

Scrummy
 
Thanks Scrumbag. I'm still on the fence, I've been reading as much as I can from: http://www.6mmbr.com/223Rem.html

It seems that you can shoot pretty much ANY .223 round out of any gun, but the ideal twist rate of 1:12 is better suited to lighter bullets. I'm pretty sure that CZ 527 can shoot anything lower grain, up to 70 grain well. I love that heavy barrel, don't LOVE the magazine, but whatever.

The Browning X-Bolt Hunter and Medallion series are absolutely stunning rifles in every way. Their styling and detail is like nothing else I've seen. And in my case, it might be as easy to get my hands on a Medallion, as a CZ 527.
 
Hi Henry22

I think you’ll find that there are different views on ideal twist from anyone.

1:12 I would say is a little fast
1:8 or 1:7 means you really need to shoot heavy (Like I think +65gr bullets) and apparently ~40gr bullets do not do so well in this twist.

I personally feel 1:9 works well. Mine happily shoots 62 gr GGG Nato and 62 gr Federal Soft Points which I like. It also shoots cheapo 55gr S&B and Norma 52gr soft point really well.

If you want 65-70gr bullets I think you might struggle with a 1:12 twist (not saying won’t work, just less likely to work well in my view)

What issues worry you on the magazine? I think they are great myself.

Scrummy
 
I was looking for this 527 17 hornet varmint rifle and Came across this 223 version I have never seen before. I think the website was west coast hunting.ca out of B.C. The picture of it they sent me made me jump on it.

Why I don’t like 1-12” is because it isn’t made for the upper bullet weights. If Henry wants to shoot a lot of super light fast varmint bullets then that is just fine. I like the option of shooting mostly anything 55 grain and up well. Not 90 grainers but 80’s and lighter. 1-8” is great for that. 1-9” would almost be a more happy medium in my opinion
 
Hey scrummy. Nothing really worries me about the mag clip. I think I'm just "sold" on the idea of those flush fitting mags, that you see on the Browning and Tikka rifles. But, it's not a deal breaker in any way. I really love the look and styling of the 527. I went into SAIL today to ask a guy at the gun counter about all this stuff. My dad and I are basically shooting potatoes spiked onto toothpicks from the top of a target board, paper groups, maybe the odd small pumpkin etc. — Never varminting with it.

He showed me this Tikka T3X with a synthetic stock, all black, and a stainless bull barrel. It seems like a serious piece. I told the guy about the CZ 527, he thinks they're great guns, but given the option between the Tikka and CZ 527, he'd pick the Tikka hands down.

A guy I know told me recently, "almost every gun made now shoots better than all but the best shooters" It really does start with the shooter, and I'm a newb. So I'm wondering how much "better" would that T3X perform over the 527? Both have bull barrels, and both have Mauser type actions.

We're not setup to load ourselves, so for now, it'll be Remington .223 Freedom buckets when they go on sale. You get what you pay for in the ammo world - like anything else in life I suppose.
 
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My vote would be for the CZ FWIW

I have a 527M Carbine in 223 and a 527 American in 6.5 Grendel. The 527 is currently my favourite small-medium caliber bolt action platform. I like the mini Mauser design particularly for the light weight which make them pleasant to carry around.

The Browning's are nice, but I've been on a CZ binge for the last couple years (it was the only cure to Marlinitis).

My suggestion is to handle both in-store or from a friend and decide on what feels right for you.
 
henry22 said:
Hey scrummy. Nothing really worries me about the mag clip. I think I'm just "sold" on the idea of those flush fitting mags, that you see on the Browning and Tikka rifles. But, it's not a deal breaker in any way. I really love the look and styling of the 527. I went into SAIL today to ask a guy at the gun counter about all this stuff. My dad and I are basically shooting potatoes spiked onto toothpicks from the top of a target board, paper groups, maybe the odd small pumpkin etc. — Never varminting with it.

He showed me this Tikka T3X with a synthetic stock, all black, and a stainless bull barrel. It seems like a serious piece. I told the guy about the CZ 527, he thinks they're great guns, but given the option between the Tikka and CZ 527, he'd pick the Tikka hands down.

A guy I know told me recently, "almost every gun made now shoots better than all but the best shooters" It really does start with the shooter, and I'm a newb. So I'm wondering how much "better" would that T3X perform over the 527? Both have bull barrels, and both have Mauser type actions.

We're not setup to load ourselves, so for now, it'll be Remington .223 Freedom buckets when they go on sale. You get what you pay for in the ammo world - like anything else in life I suppose.
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Not quite. Tikka T3x is not a Mauser type action. (But that doesn't really matter, can't deny Tikka's tend to shoot).

Scrummy
 
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